Tax type here. Double taxation, as you analyze it, is what you describe,
but I'd support a definition that applies your explanation to the same
sort of tax.  So your corporate shareholder example is a good one, as is
your example of earning income, paying tax, and then paying a lawyer (my
students instinctively see that as "double taxation" when they start the
course.....<G>)

But if there are two different types of taxes, then it is problematic
to use the term "double taxation." So if a person earns income and pays
an income tax, that is one tax. Suppose the person invests some of the
"after tax" income and then is subjected to a wealth tax. That is not
"double taxation" because neither tax is applied twice. It is "serial
taxation." The person spent some of the "after (income) tax" income...
and perhaps paid a sales tax. Double taxation? No. The same for a gift
or estate or inheritance tax.

In theory, the person's income could end up in three buckets: taxes,
consumption, and investment. The issue is whether taxes ought to be set
in ways (serial taxation) that cause a person's investment at the time
of death (or earlier) to be zero or minimal so that redistribution can
occur. This is a very old debate, and what I see in this thread is a new
reason advanced in favor of redistribution.

As for the constitutional question, it would be ironic if one could
successfully argue that confiscatory taxation (to the extent of taking
everything) did not violate the constitution, because it was on that
very question that the revolution took place.



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Just on the multiple taxation issue:  all the money in circulation has
been taxed many times.  That doesn't mean future transfers shouldn't
be
taxed.  The argument about multiple taxation has force when the
ultimate
recipient of the money seems to have had a claim on it at the time the
first tax was imposed.  Shareholders own a corporation; they own the
money it earns, on which it pays taxes.  Should they have to pay a tax
again when that money is distributed to them?  This is plausibly
described as double taxation.  When I earn money and pay tax on it,
then
use my after tax earnings to pay a lawyer (for example), it doesn't
look
like double taxation to require her to pay tax.  So the question of
whether the inheritance tax is an instance of  double taxation comes
down to the question of whether children have this sort of
pre-existing
claim on a parent's wealth.  You can take this as a question directed
either to your philosophical intuitions, or to our current legal
system,
but in either case  I don't think it's preposterous to say the answer
is
no.

Eastman, John wrote:

>Cornell Clayton's position below really is preposterous.  Talk about
>double taxation -- the money left via a will has already been taxed,
of
>course (often several times!).  I'm curious, though, how far he would
go
>with it.  If I give my kids $100,000 over 4 years for college
tuition,
>would he tax that as "income" to my kids?  How about room and board
for
>the 18 years before that?
>
>But to bring this back to constitutional law.  Are there any
>constitutional limits on the taxing power at all?  Anything to prevent
a
>90 or 100% confiscatory estate tax?  In the Federalist 10, James
Madison
>counted it "the first object of government" to protect the diversity
in
>the faculties of men, from which the rights of property originate.
Is
>there anything in the Constitution that is designed to further this
>purpose?
>
>John C. Eastman
>Professor of Law, Chapman University School of Law
>Director, The Claremont Institute Center for Constitutional
>Jurisprudence
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Cornell Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 12:58 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Statistics
>
>
>Glenn Reynolds wrote:
>
>>2.  It would be ironic, if people's right to pass their property on
to
>>their descendants were generally regarded as unfair and
illegitimate.
>>
>
>
>I, for one, do think that laws allowing inheritance of massive
amounts
>of property or wealth (or economic advantage) are unfair and
>illegitimate. Following a Rawlsian conception of equality -- which I
>believe is the best interpretation of our constitutional commitment
to
>equality -- I can see no difference theoretically between one
inheriting
>arbitrary advantages (or
>disadvantages) on the basis of birth-family as opposed to color of
skin.
>One does nothing to merit either one, so one has no more just
>expectation to inherit privilege on the basis of the family you are
born
>into than to inherent privilege on the basis of the skin color you
>happen to be born with.  This is one of the reasons I think the
>Republican attack on the
>estate tax is so egregious.   It is not a "death tax", but a tax on
>income
>that is not deserved or merited!  Not only should we not eliminate
the
>estate tax, we should tax inheritance at a much higher level than
earned
>income.
>
>Of course, I readily concede Glen's other point, that as a matter of
>history (as opposed to theory) the US experience with race
>discrimination is quite different than thinking about  problems
created
>by economic inheritance.
>
>Cheers,
>Cornell Clayton
>

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