As a practicing attorney, I had to giggle when I read Sandy's statement that an 
attorney believes he or she can become an expert in any area after a weekend of hard 
study.  That is certainly true.  Of course, attorneys rely on a hired expert to give 
him or her expertise in a short period of time, which, obviously, leaves the attorney 
subject to all of the bias and faults of the educating expert.  But back to Eugene's 
point - the great thing about this listserv is that in general we deal with 
substantive areas of law and how the nuances of law apply to facts.  We don't spend 
alot of time addressing whether a given fact is true or untrue.  If we spend our 
limited time debating factual issues, this list will lose one of the key ingredients 
that makes reading these post time well spent.

Gene Summerlin
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Lynne writes:  With all due respect to Eugene and Sandy's posts, I do think there are 
members of this list who have expertise on "facts", bodies of literature in other 
disciplines, etc.

I have no doubt that Lynne is correct.  But, insofar as we want to have a "meta" 
discussion (and maybe we don't, for very good reasons), it remains unclear exactly how 
one identifies someone who possesses "expertise"--is explicit graduate traing 
required, e.g.?--and, even more to the point, how one adjudicates conflicts between 
two people each of whom claims equal expertise.  (This is slightly off topic, but I 
recall many people a couple of years ago who said that it didn't matter that Gov. Bush 
had no knowledge whatsoever of foreign policy because, after all, he'd be able to rely 
on "expert advisors."  What they didn't acknowledge is that the "experts" might 
disagree, and then we'd be depending on Bush's .... (what, instincts, newly developed 
expertise, ....?)).

Mark Tushnet many years ago coined the notion of "the lawyer as astrophysicist," by 
which he referred to the lawyer's tendency to believe that he/she could become an 
expert on *anything* given a weekend of hard study (though, of course, almost no 
lawyers believed that a non-lawyer could become an expert in less than three years of 
law school!).  It is not false modesty that leads me, as I get older, to be more aware 
of what I don't know about facts in the world than what I do.

sandy

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