G Rusello writes: (re Sylvia Lazos post)

> Her identification of the categories of history, cultural ideology and psychology 
> provide a fruitful framework for analysis.  As others will note, these categories 
> can be turned in ma[ny] directions.  One could argue, for example, that Catholics 
> and evangelical Christians suffer from the majority culture in profound and 
> continuous ways.  As Philip Jenkins has recently noted, anti-catholic prejusdice is 
> deeply rooted and casually expressed in almost every area of American life, and the 
> evidence he marshals satisfies at least the last 2 categories described above.  
> Speaking as a Catholic, I can attest to its negative psychological effects.   But 
> were  a court to examine a claim for AA by a Catholic,I don't think we would feel 
> comfortable identifying that plaintiff (or, say, a rural evangelical Christian) as a 
> "minority."
>
I agree that Prof Lazos'  analysis is terrific. She is a fabulous critical race theory 
scholar, and the insights of critical race theory scholarship are powerfully 
illuminative on issues of inequality and justice, etc, as you can see here on the 
question of which groups should qualify for remedial -based affirmative action..

But, I think your question of whether  catholics or rural evangelical christians 
should be considered minorities brings into relief the incongruity of the argument 
that remedial justifications are necesary (not merely sufficient) for the 
constitutionality of a university's admissions search for racial and ethnic, but not 
other, diversity.

For example, suppose a state school, as part of a broader diversity search,  were to 
seek to admit more Evangelical Christians concluding that the world view of 
Evangelical Christians was underrepresented  on their campus, thus impoverishing the 
education of all students.  (and I say this as an evangelical christian - although I'm 
neither conservative nor Republican.) Does anyone seriously argue that such inclusion 
would violate the religion clauses by discriminating against, say,  Baptists or 
Methodists?  Certainly the state could not exclude Evangelical Christians (or Baptists 
or Methodists)  from admission. But is seeking them out to enhance the university's 
intellectual and cultural diversity, the constitutional equivalent of religious 
discrimination? Or suppose Catholic University were to conclude that its applicant 
pool was too heavily Catholic and seek to admit more non-Catholic applicants for 
diversity. Would Title VI prohibit it from doing so, on the theory that suc!
 h action would be unconstitutional religious discrimination if done by a state 
university?

Again, I think the antisubordination arguments clearly carry the day, if need be. But, 
I think those who argue racial and ethnic affirmative action is unconstitutional in 
the university admissions context,  have to first make the case that seeking racial 
and ethnic inclusiveness is somehow uniquely more constitutionally problematic than  
seeking other types of inclusiveness.


yb



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> Professor Lazos' thgouhtful and informative piece adds much to this debate.  Her 
> discussion of "race" in the context of "minority" reveals an important point.  She 
> writes:
>
> "To determine if any social group is a "minority," the Court should take into 
> account history ( a history of stigmatization as is the case with segregation and 
> racial minorities), cultural ideology (a "common sense" that makes a group inferior 
> or places that group in a restrictive role), an> d psychology (documented showing 
> that the majority regards the minority as inferior or subordinate to them in some 
> respect.) The nature of the dominant-subordinate dynamic will vary with context 
> because different minority groups are subject to different kinds of prejudices and 
> power dynamics."
>
>
> Her identification of the categories of history, cultural ideology and psychology 
> provide a fruitful framework for analysis.  As others will note, these categories 
> can be turned in mah directions.  One could argue, for example, that Catholics and 
> evangelical Christians suffer from the majority culture in profound and continuous 
> ways.  As Philip Jenkins has recently noted, anti-catholic prejusdice is deeply 
> rooted and casually expressed in almost every area of American life, and the 
> evidence he marshals satisfies at least the last 2 categories described above.  
> Speaking as a Catholic, I can attest to its negative psychological effects.   But 
> were  a court to examine a claim for AA by a Catholic,I don't think we would feel 
> comfortable identifying that plaintiff (or, say, a rural evangelical Christian) as a 
> "minority."
>
> The larger question Professor Lazos reises is really whether the courts are the 
> right vehicle for making these judgments, and whether such obviously contextual and 
> shifting definitions of minority, which depend on region, education, and the 
> reigning majotity stereotypes, are of suitable determinateness to be comprehensible 
> in a constitutionally-viable way.
>
> Gerald J. Russello
>

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