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Sorry
for emailing a blank in error.
Thank
you, Tim, and to Malla for pointing out that 'unconscionability' is so narrowly
understood in contract law, which is where I first recall the term used in a
legal context, from a very long time ago. I hadn't realized
that.
The
essence of 'unconscionability,' as I imagined the word to mean, is expressed in
two places (at least). The first that I have in mind is by Cardozo in
Palko where he finds certain immunities contained in the Bill of Rights to be
"implicit in the concept of ordered liberty" and thus selectively incorporatable
against the states via the Fourteenth. He asks whether the right being
asserted is "of the very essence of ordered liberty." Finally, Cardozo
asks whether Palko's legal predicament (twice being put in jeopardy of his life,
under two sovereigns, where the second succeeds in taking it upon retrial)
violates those "fundamental principles of liberty and justice which lie at the
base of all our civil and political institutions." (He thought not in
Palko, alas.)
The
second is Frankfurter's statement in Adamson, where he tries to define which
values (of the Bill of Rights, criminal procedure division) are of sufficient
importance to be allowed selective incorporation. He asks whether they
"commend themselves to the individual justices as indispensable to the dignity
and happiness of a free man" but says that's too subjective for him and then
says, "In the history of thought "natural law" has a much longer and much
better founded meaning and justification than such subjective selection of the
first eight Amendments for incorporation into the Fourteenth. If all that
is meant is that due process contains within itself certain minimal standards
which are 'of the very essence of a scheme of ordered liberty [citing Palko]
then we have merely arrived at the insight which our predecessors long ago
expressed." His famous solution is to ask "whether they offend those
canons of decency and fairness which express the notions of justice of
English-speaking peoples even toward those charged with the most heinous of
offenses." God help us, depending on just the English-speaking
peoples.
To sum
up, whatever got me started on this circular path seems to have brought me back
full circle. It seems I meant 'unscionable' to mean unjust or unfair,
sufficiently to require a legal remedy. I might just as well have used the
word "justice," as in 'system of,' instead. Legal reasoning, I've read (in
a book on appellate brief writing, author forgotten, sorry to say) is
essentially circular, and I think I've just demonstrated it.
A
useful exercise, to me at least, and I thank you for your
contributions.
Bob
Sheridan
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- INSUBORDINATION, UNCONSCIONABILITY Robert Sheridan
- Re: INSUBORDINATION, UNCONSCIONABILITY Tim Sellers
- Re: INSUBORDINATION, UNCONSCIONABILITY Robert Sheridan
- Re: INSUBORDINATION, UNCONSCIONABILITY Malla Pollack
- Re: INSUBORDINATION, UNCONSCIONABILITY Robert Sheridan
- Robert Sheridan
