Is it that the litigant is a lawyer or simply that there are no
out-of-pocket attorney fees to be reimbursed? In other words, the
statute doesn't cover the value of the litigant's time, just the value
of actual expended dollars? (Same thing with the tax case attorney fee
recovery statute (26 USC sec 7430) (see Sorrentino v US 199 F Supp 1068,
and cases cited therein), and my guess is that all such statutes, state
and federal, end up being limited to reimbursement of actual outlays
barring specific legislation saying otherwise).

I assume Newdow is a lawyer? If he weren't, would the result be
different?

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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/15/2003 1:41:09 PM >>>
Under Kay v. Ehrler, 499 U.S. 432 (1991),  a pro se litigant who is
also a
lawyer cannot be awarded fees under 42 U.S.C. sec. 1988, which is, I
assume, the fee-shifting statute most likely to apply to this case.

Pam Karlan

At 01:09 PM 10/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Since Mark Newdow is apparently representing himself, would he be
entitled
>to attorneys' fees if he prevails in the pledge of allegiance case?
If so,
>approximately how much would they be (four figures, five figures, or
six
>figures)?

Pamela S. Karlan
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Stanford Law School
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