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   1. Aw: Re: [PATCH] service: Add EnableOnlineCheck config option
      (Ingo Albrecht)


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Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 19:46:14 +0100
From: "Ingo Albrecht" <[email protected]>
To: "Daniel Wagner" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected], "'Marcel Holtmann'" <[email protected]>,
        "Slava Monich" <[email protected]>
Subject: Aw: Re: [PATCH] service: Add EnableOnlineCheck config option
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Hi Daniel,

> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 01. Februar 2017 um 08:16 Uhr
> Von: "Daniel Wagner" <[email protected]>
> An: "Ingo Albrecht" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], "'Marcel Holtmann'" <[email protected]>, "Slava 
> Monich" <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: [PATCH] service: Add EnableOnlineCheck config option
>
> Hi Ingo
> 
> On 01/31/2017 08:29 PM, Ingo Albrecht wrote:
> >> Hi Lukasz,
> >>
> >> On 01/26/2017 06:51 PM, Lukasz Nowak wrote:
> >>> From: Lukasz Nowak <lnowak at tycoint.com>
> >>>
> >>> Global config option, which allows to enable/disable (enabled by default)
> >>> use of http get in wispr to transition a default service from READY to
> >>> ONLINE state.
> >>
> >> Isn't
> >>
> >>  ./configure   --disable-wispr
> >>
> >> good enough?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Daniel
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > no it isn't.
> 
> Lukasz has stepped up to get --disable-wispr doing what it is supposed 
> to do. So soon you should be able to turn it off for real.
> 

While I appreciate the work, being able to --disable-wispr during configure 
unfortunately is a functionality trade-off for all end-users, who would rather 
be able to configure it at runtime.[1] 

> > In fact the online check as it is done so far (default enabled, no
> > option to turn it off, no mention of it in the manpage, no privacy
> > policy available for the nginx server replying on how it cycles logs)
> > can quickly get this project into trouble. The current implementation
> > clearly violates privacy laws (EU-wide for starters).
> 
> These are good points.
> 
> > You clearly should not only implement a user-configurable option for
> > it, but also default it to off (default off gets you a consent of the
> > user to the use of the online check service).
> 
> I still hope to convince Marcel, that I prefer adding Salva's patches 
> which allow the user to set the server address for the online check.
> 

I actually agree with Marcel on the point that making the online check URL 
itself configurable introduces other problems.[2][3] Yet, summarizing like 
"There is no machine id or any kind of information to associate this HTTP 
request with another one from the same source IP."[4] is wrong in an IPv6 
world. A connman client/ infrastructure cannot control such, i.e. the fridge's 
connectivity may well be identified and tracked long-term with a default 
connman.conf.

Now, that's my five cents. I will watch how and what patch gets implemented. 
Perhaps, I can suggest a complementing doc patch or else later.

> > I can give you more input on the why, if you require it. But this
> > case  is _very_ clear.
> 
> Thanks,
> Daniel
> 

Cheers,
Ingo

[1] https://01.org/jira/browse/CM-657
[2] https://lists.01.org/pipermail/connman/2017-January/021514.html
[3] https://lists.01.org/pipermail/connman/2017-January/021488.html
[4] 
http://connman.connman.narkive.com/9UUwIG25/connman-online-test#selection:8.1338.122


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