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 1. RE: Salted Watercolors Preservation

 2. RE: Caring for Japanese swords

 3. Conference Announcement: FUTURE TALKS 025. From failure to success.

 4. RE: Is there a US supplier for Bondina?

 5. PhD opportunity, 3d printed replicas in Museums

 6. Black Archival Felt

 7. RE: Consolidate for the walls of a padded cell.

 8. Ask Me Anything on Grant proposals and project applications

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1.From: Eve Menei
 Posted: Friday December 6, 2024  5:40 PM
 Subject: RE: Salted Watercolors Preservation
 Message: 
Dear Danielle,


Thank your for sharing these amazing pictures. I never heard of such a 
watercolour technique. It reminds me of the sated terra cotta ostraca found in 
Egypt. But in that case the salt crystals are accidental and create damage to 
the documents, exploding the surface. But it looks very close.


I would think drastic control of the RH is paramount to avoid increasing the 
salt crystals formation.


Good luck !





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Eve Menei
Paper Conservator
Freelance/Private Practice/Self-employed/Independent
Paris
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-03-2024 11:47
From: Danielle Creech
Subject: Salted Watercolors Preservation


Hello -

We have recently acquired an archival collection with some salted watercolors 
in them.  The artist liked the textural component of salt crystals, so these 
are.... quite chunky.  Other than housing them to protect the salt from being 
abraded off, are there other preservation factors I should consider due to the 
excess of salt that must remain on the artwork and/or other preventative 
measures I should take to preserve them?  You can see some detail shots here: 
https://wustl.app.box.com/s/f8kb47wd028bh3cly609yc4dn3maexwp 
<https://wustl.app.box.com/s/f8kb47wd028bh3cly609yc4dn3maexwp>

Thanks in advance for any advice,

Danielle


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Danielle Creech
Head of Preservation, Processing & Exhibitions
WashU Libraries
Saint Louis MO
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2.From: Dominique Robcis
 Posted: Friday December 6, 2024  5:40 PM
 Subject: RE: Caring for Japanese swords
 Message: 
LO Mya,


J'ai eu l'occasion de travailler tant en tant que restaurateur que conservation 
scientist sur les métaux japonais, très beau sujet au niveau technique et 
déontologique, mais bien complexe.


Si vous avez envie d'échanger sur la question,


[email protected]


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Dominique Robcis
conservation scientist
Centre de Recherche et de Restauration des Musées de France
Paris
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-05-2024 04:48
From: Mya Nguyen
Subject: Caring for Japanese swords


Hello everyone, 

I'm currently in my last year of studies in conservation-restoration in France. 
I dedicated this entire year to the study and restoration of a Japanese sword 
and just completed an internship in Musée des Confluences, Lyon, for the study 
of their Japanese swords collection. 

These works have made me really curious about how you care about these objects. 
I found that there is a huge gap between Japanese practices and others, as well 
as between private collectors and public institutions. One of the main 
difference being the systematic dismantling of swords in Japanese and private 
collections (I'm generalizing for the sake of this message), and the regular 
cleaning + oiling for the blade. Restoration should also be done by a 
professionnal polisher trained in Japan (togishi), and might cost up to 20€/cm 
(without counting on the international transportation and the waiting list of 
several months).

I'm lurking in specialized forums who do not hesitate to look down on museums 
regarding the care they have for Japanese swords (wrong informations, no 
measurements or bad ones, etc.). We don't have any specialist in France nor do 
we have a go-to restorer for these objects. This leads to all of the Japanese 
swords staying backstage, which is a quite a shame. I'm trying to think of an 
in-between solution which could be satisfying for the private collectors (who 
would then be more keen to collaboration I think), but also do-able for the 
institutions regarding their limited budget and time. 

All of this to ask you : how do you care about Japanese swords ? 

If you are a restorer, did you already intervene on one ? What did you do ? 

I'd be very glad to discuss this with all of you ! 


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Mya Nguyen
Student
École Supérieure d'Art d'Avignon
Avignon
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3.From: Tim Bechthold
 Posted: Friday December 6, 2024  5:41 PM
 Subject: Conference Announcement: FUTURE TALKS 025. From failure to success.
 Message: FUTURE TALKS 025

FROM FAILURE TO SUCCESS

INNOVATIVE CASE STUDIES IN THE CONSERVATION OF THE MODERN

 

The Conservation Department of Die Neue Sammlung - The Design Museum - is 
organizing the ninth international conference in the FUTURE TALKS series at the 
Pinakothek der Moderne, Munich, from 5 to 7 November 2025.

 

The FUTURE TALKS conference series, initiated every two years since 2009, is an 
international conference format for the transfer of knowledge on modern 
material and technology innovations to current conservation research projects. 
The focus here is on the active restoration of modern materials and the 
analysis and documentation of the technologies used. Specific interdisciplinary 
projects are presented, scrutinized and evaluated as part of specialist 
lectures, workshops, speed lectures and panel discussions.

FUTURE TALKS is internationally regarded as THE platform for the conservation 
of modern materials and technologies in design and art.

 

CONFERNCE TOPIC

16 years, eight conferences and a good 230 lectures later, we would like to 
dedicate the FUTURE TALKS 025 conference to an aspect that is directly linked 
to the evolution of human culture: Innovation through mistakes.

In our culture, especially in the working environment of conservators and 
conservation scientists, mistakes are usually associated with professional 
failure. This is understandable, as in the worst case this can lead to the loss 
of irretrievable cultural assets. What is crucial in this context, however, is 
how to deal with failure.

Nevertheless mistakes and failures have always been an integral part of 
innovative scientific research. The decisive factor is the acceptance of being 
able to make mistakes and the willingness and motivation to share and learn 
from them, develop improvements and draw the right conclusions 

While it is still common practice at conferences and in professional exchanges 
to emphasize only the successful and effective case studies, the frank dialogue 
has a much greater, indeed almost inexhaustible potential for innovation and 
professional progress in our field.

The FUTURE TALKS offer both the professional and the necessary protected 
framework for discussing and advancing relevant projects.

Beyond this focus, FUTURE TALKS 025 will also take a closer look at outstanding 
research projects that have never been published before.

In addition to lectures on this topic, a panel discussion and the opportunity 
to discuss specific questions with experts in small specialist groups, or in 
1:1 mode, designers and artists will give inspiring insights into their current 
fields of activity in exciting keynotes in dialogue with the content of the 
lectures.

 

BACKGROUND

Since the beginning of industrialization, the increasing development of new 
materials and the associated innovative forms of technology have had an ever 
greater influence on the design of goods and works of art. To this day, 
materials are designed, modified and adapted to the needs of the market and the 
environment.

Conservators who are confronted with cultural assets of the modern age must 
recognize and interpret these complex relationships in order to gain an 
appropriate understanding of the ageing processes and thus define suitable 
conservation methods and correspondingly adequate treatment strategies. In this 
context, the interdisciplinary dialog with conservation scientists, engineers, 
designers and producers represents a central tool for understanding modernity.

In this context, the FUTURE TALKS have been offering an international, 
discursive platform for innovative case studies every two years since 2009. The 
focus of this conference series is on the application, restoration and analysis 
of modern materials and technologies in design and the visual arts. In order to 
increase the proportion of practice-relevant contributions, a special focus is 
placed on exemplary case studies.

With more than 2000 participants from over 30 nations, the first eight 
conferences and the seven conference post prints published to date have 
generated an enthusiastic response and made the term FUTURE TALKS 
internationally synonymous with the preservation of modern materials.

FUTURE TALKS is internationally recognized as THE established forum for 
professional networking, interdisciplinary lectures, workshops and discussions 
on modern materials and technologies and their impact on the world of museums, 
galleries and private collections. 

With a focus on an increasing number of interdisciplinary contributions related 
to technologies and modified analysis techniques, our aim is to optimize the 
decision-making process in the conservation of modern materials and to 
discursively guide and define possible avenues for active treatments.

 

The FUTURE TALKS help to sensitize the public to the fact that even 
industrially produced products are subject to a gradual degradation of 
material, which in the worst case can lead to a loss of our cultural identity 
and history.

 

ORGANIZER

The conference series is initiated and organized by the Conservation Department 
of Die Neue Sammlung - The Design Museum. 

The Conservation Department has been focusing on the phenomenon of the ageing 
of modern materials for 22 years now. Through numerous conference papers, 
specialist publications, practical research projects and international teaching 
assignments (University College of London (UCL), Doha, Qatar, Technical 
University of Munich (TUM), Munich, State Academy of Fine Arts Stuttgart and 
Academy of Fine Arts, Vienna, Austria), the Conservation Department of Die Neue 
Sammlung is one of the world's leading institutions dealing with the ageing and 
restoration of modern materials in design.

 

TARGET GROUP

In order to facilitate a lively and interdisciplinary dialog, the conference is 
aimed at conservators, conservation scientists, designers, architects, artists, 
curators, collectors, engineers and design and art producers.

 

VENUE

Pinakothek der Moderne, Munich, Germany

 

DATE

November 05 - 07, 2025

 

BOOKING

Starts in spring 2025 – look for further announcements

 

FURTHER INFORMATION

 

Tim Bechthold

Head of Conservation – Die Neue Sammlung I The Design Museum

[email protected]

FUTURE TALKS | Die Neue Sammlung 
<https://www.die-neue-sammlung.de/en/future-talks/>


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Tim Bechthold
Head of Conservation
Die Neue Sammlung
München
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4.From: Beth Edelstein
 Posted: Friday December 6, 2024  5:41 PM
 Subject: RE: Is there a US supplier for Bondina?
 Message: 
Hi Denise and Jessamy! I recently looked for Bondina as well, no US suppliers, 
we bought from the UK. There is a thread in the AIC member community from 2019 
with the same question, same conclusion - someone kindly sent a list of 
European and UK suppliers at that time. I did find a sample of a very similar 
material in a sample book from our Asian paintings conservators but I believe 
that was from a company in China, so no advantage there. But if you're 
interested in that I can find out more!  
happy Friday,


Beth 


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Beth Edelstein
Senior Conservator
Cleveland Museum of Art
Cleveland OH
(917) 364-3120
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-05-2024 12:04
From: Jessamy Gloor
Subject:  Is there a US supplier for Bondina?


Hi Denise! 

The last time we bought it (2021) we tried to find an in-US vendor but 
couldn't, so we had to get it straight from Britain. Hope that's enough to get 
your purchase approval. 

Jessamy


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Jessamy Gloor
Lead Paper Conservator
The Huntington Library, Art Museum, and Botanical Gardens
San Marino CA United States
pronouns: she/her(s)
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-03-2024 15:05
From: Denise Stockman
Subject: Is there a US supplier for Bondina?


I recently borrowed some Bondina to use when lining a fractured transparent 
paper item and it worked really well in terms of being really smooth and 
stick-resistant. I would like to buy some to keep in stock in our lab. Is there 
a US supplier? I need to verify this before getting approval to purchase from 
abroad. Thank you. 

(In case anyone is wondering what I used as lining paper for the fractured 
transparent paper item, I used Talas Hanji #1201 
<https://www.talasonline.com/Hanji-Handmade-Korean-Papers?quantity=1&type=287&Hanji=23&srsltid=AfmBOopFq0jVHwRnQjyXf1QY7xjlGTscSt7e8nYFA2gFJd6rpUcUCNQP>
 -series 3; 13gsm, and the results were very satisfactory.)

Denise


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Denise Stockman
Senior Paper Collections Conservator
New York Public Library
Kew Gardens NY
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5.From: Jacqueline Chapman-Gray
 Posted: Friday December 6, 2024  5:42 PM
 Subject: PhD opportunity, 3d printed replicas in Museums
 Message:  
On behalf of Duncan Murdock
 
 
 
Dear all, 
 
 
 
The University of Warwick, and Oxford University Museum of Natural History are 
advertising a fully-funded four-year PhD opportunity as part of the AHRC 
Collaborative Doctoral Partnership Scheme on the topic of Evaluating the 
Influence of Tangible 3D Printed Replicas on the Museum Experience.
 
 
 
Application are open now. Full details and how to apply  here 
<https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/wmg/study/research-degrees/vacancies/evaluatingtheinfluenceoftangible3dprintedreplicas/>.
 
 
 
Best,
 
 
 
Duncan
 
 
 
 
 
--- 
 Dr Duncan Murdock 
 he/him
 Collections Manager, Earth Collections
  
 Oxford University Museum of Natural History
 Parks Road, Oxford, OX1 3PW, UK | +44 (0)1865 272955     @morethanadodo    
www.oumnh.ox.ac.uk <http://www.oumnh.ox.ac.uk/>
 
 About Megalosaurus 1824-2024 <https://oumnh.web.ox.ac.uk/megalosaurus-0>
 
 
 
 
 
Best wishes,
 
Jackie
 
 
 
Jacqueline Chapman-Gray
 
Conservator, Life Collections
 
Working hours 07:00-15:30
 

 
Oxford University Museum of Natural History
 
Parks Road, Oxford, OX1 3PW | 01865 272972| 
[email protected] <[email protected]> | 
www.oumnh.ox.ac.uk <http://www.oumnh.ox.ac.uk/>
 
 
                   
 About Megalosaurus 1824-2024 <https://oumnh.web.ox.ac.uk/megalosaurus-0>
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

6.From: Shirley Ellis
 Posted: Friday December 6, 2024  5:42 PM
 Subject: Black Archival Felt
 Message: Does anyone know of a Canadian or American supplier for black 
archival felt (polyester)?

Shirley Ellis

Sent from my iPhone

7.From: Kayla Silvia
 Posted: Friday December 6, 2024  5:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Consolidate for the walls of a padded cell.
 Message: 
Hi Katie,


To better assist, could you provide more information about which materials have 
started to crack and flake? Is the issue localized to the vinyl exterior, the 
underlying foam or polymer layer, or both?


I am currently researching the treatment of rubber and polyurethane-coated 
textiles, and based on the specifics, I'd be happy to provide more tailored 
recommendations.


Best,


Kayla Silvia-Winokurzew


Engen Conservation Fellow 


Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum


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Kayla Silvia
Engen Conservation Fellow
National Air and Space Museum
Alexandria VA
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-04-2024 08:38
From: Katie Proctor
Subject: Consolidate for the walls of a padded cell.


I have recently been asked how to consolidate the walls of a padded cell at a 
local museum.

The walls are made from a polythene or polyurethane covered in vinyl. The 
materials has started to crack and flake. 

Can anyone suggest a consolidate that may be used?

The padded cell is usually open for people to enter and walk around in, but it 
has been closed off for the moment. Ideally the museum would like to open this 
back up for visitors. 

Thank you, Katie. 


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Katie Proctor
Conservator
West Yorkshire Archive Service
Wakefield
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8.From: M. Susan Barger
 Posted: Friday December 6, 2024  5:47 PM
 Subject: Ask Me Anything on Grant proposals and project applications
 Message: 🖊️💸📝 At Conserv, we have scheduled the last AMA (Ask Me Anything) of 
the year on Grant Proposals and Project Applications with  of Sustainable 
Conservation <https://www.lesscarbonmoreculture.com/>! The way this works is 
that you have up until 1pm ET on December 17th to type your questions as a 
reply to this post. Christopher will be logged into the community for an hour 
starting at that time to type replies to your questions. You do not have to be 
present while he is doing this as you and everyone else will be able to see the 
answers at any time following the AMA.

Go ahead and start asking your specific questions now 🏁🐎. BONUS points if you 
ask good general questions that you think may benefit the entire community 
(even if you think you may know the answer)!

If you have a question, you would like posted anonymously, let me know. 

Susan


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M. Susan Barger, PhD
Conserv Community Board
[email protected]
Santa Fe NM
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