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 1. RE: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs

 2. RE: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs

 3. Anti-counterfeiting photoluminescent nanomaterials

 4. Job Posting: Postdoctoral Researcher (Materials Science – Polymers)

 5. Three vacancies at Cambridge University Library

 6. RE: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs

 7. RE: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs

 8. RE: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs

 9. RE: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs

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1.From: Christian Mueller-Straten
 Posted: Friday January 24, 2025  7:32 AM
 Subject: RE: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs
 Message: 
Hi Sarah,


this case is quite spooky. But here are several several things you could check:


1) what exactly measure the sensors: relative humidity or relative dryness?


2) Is there a water source outside the showcase (visitors with raincoats, wet 
walls or else?


3) What happens exactly to the measured results  if you take away the silicagel 
and place it again in the showcase?


4) Maybe the malfunction is not caused by the sensors, but by the rest of the 
system (hardware, IT programs).


5) Maybe the rH sensors have aged and were not checked and replaced recently. 
rH sensors have to be controlled and calibrated annually. The risk of drift 
changes is depending on the sensor type, the measuring principle used and the 
level of physical protection. Nevertheless, suitable high-quality sensors are 
usually stable for many years. The risk of drift with humidity sensors depends 
on the type of use and the sensor technology. However, humidity sensors have a 
higher risk of drift than temperature sensors, especially when used in very 
humid or very dry environments.


Hope that helps.


Christian


------------------------------
[Christian] [Mueller-Straten] [Researcher, Publisher, Art Historian]
[Owner]
[Verlag Dr. Christian Mueller-Straten]
[Munich] [Germany]
[0049-89-839 690 43]
[https://www.museum-aktuell.de] https://www.museum-aktuell.de/CEO
------------------------------
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-23-2025 11:40
From: Sarah Coggins
Subject: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs


Hello conservation community

We have two Hanwell RH and T sensors inside a showcase that are reading an RH 
of >75%. The temperature readings are in an acceptable range of 19-21 degrees 
centigrade. We cannot determine the cause of the high RH, the small HVAC 
systems in the case are turned off and isolated and there is no source of water 
anywhere near the case. The RH in the gallery is low, at around 30-40% although 
the case is well sealed at 0.23 air exchanges/ day. I have also put a good 
quantity of silicag gel in the case that has not brought the RH down as would 
be expected.

Equally in the past when cases have had high RH there has been condensation on 
the interior of the cases and this is not visible on the case in question. The 
objects inside the case are regularly monitored and we have seen no changes or 
degradation that would be expected if the RH was in fact >75%. I have replaced 
the sensors in the case with ones from a very stable area that maintains 55% RH 
and the sensor quickly read the same high RH but when I put it back in the area 
with a constant RH of 55% the RH reading has not come down in line with the 
other sensor in the area.

Does anyone have any experience of this happening in their collection? I think 
I heard once that VOCs can have an effect on the accuracy of RH sensors but I 
can't remember where I heard that. There may be painted MDF in part of the 
display mounts or on the objects may be off gassing. 

I would love to hear your ideas or advice.



Thank you


------------------------------
Sarah Coggins
Conservation Engineer
Mary Rose Trust
Southsea
United Kingdom
------------------------------


2.From: Kim Hewitt
 Posted: Friday January 24, 2025  11:51 AM
 Subject: RE: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs
 Message: 
The sensor has picked up a sensitivity within the case. Possibly the light 
source for this case and how is it run and positioned.








------------------------------
Kim Hewitt
Brooklyn
United States
------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
Original Message:
Sent: 01-23-2025 11:40
From: Sarah Coggins
Subject: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs


Hello conservation community

We have two Hanwell RH and T sensors inside a showcase that are reading an RH 
of >75%. The temperature readings are in an acceptable range of 19-21 degrees 
centigrade. We cannot determine the cause of the high RH, the small HVAC 
systems in the case are turned off and isolated and there is no source of water 
anywhere near the case. The RH in the gallery is low, at around 30-40% although 
the case is well sealed at 0.23 air exchanges/ day. I have also put a good 
quantity of silicag gel in the case that has not brought the RH down as would 
be expected.

Equally in the past when cases have had high RH there has been condensation on 
the interior of the cases and this is not visible on the case in question. The 
objects inside the case are regularly monitored and we have seen no changes or 
degradation that would be expected if the RH was in fact >75%. I have replaced 
the sensors in the case with ones from a very stable area that maintains 55% RH 
and the sensor quickly read the same high RH but when I put it back in the area 
with a constant RH of 55% the RH reading has not come down in line with the 
other sensor in the area.

Does anyone have any experience of this happening in their collection? I think 
I heard once that VOCs can have an effect on the accuracy of RH sensors but I 
can't remember where I heard that. There may be painted MDF in part of the 
display mounts or on the objects may be off gassing. 

I would love to hear your ideas or advice.



Thank you


------------------------------
Sarah Coggins
Conservation Engineer
Mary Rose Trust
Southsea
United Kingdom
------------------------------


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 Posted: Friday January 24, 2025  11:52 AM
 Subject: Anti-counterfeiting photoluminescent nanomaterials
 Message: 


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Arts University Bournemouth, UK
------------------------------


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6.From: Helena Jaeschke
 Posted: Friday January 24, 2025  3:23 PM
 Subject: RE: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs
 Message: 
Dear Sarah





Have you tried a different brand of datalogger in the case? I would try 
something like the Lascar EL-USB-2-LCD  https://bit.ly/4jsXtv4 


It costs £75 but you can read the display while it's in the case and the 
software is free if you want to download it. They also have BlueTooth and WIFI 
versions if preferred. Lascar is in Salisbury, so pretty close to you and 
they're keen to support museums.


Hope it helps


Helena 


------------------------------
Helena Jaeschke, ACR FIIC
Conservation Development Officer
Museum Development South SWest 
Taunton UK
------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
Original Message:
Sent: 01-23-2025 11:40
From: Sarah Coggins
Subject: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs


Hello conservation community

We have two Hanwell RH and T sensors inside a showcase that are reading an RH 
of >75%. The temperature readings are in an acceptable range of 19-21 degrees 
centigrade. We cannot determine the cause of the high RH, the small HVAC 
systems in the case are turned off and isolated and there is no source of water 
anywhere near the case. The RH in the gallery is low, at around 30-40% although 
the case is well sealed at 0.23 air exchanges/ day. I have also put a good 
quantity of silicag gel in the case that has not brought the RH down as would 
be expected.

Equally in the past when cases have had high RH there has been condensation on 
the interior of the cases and this is not visible on the case in question. The 
objects inside the case are regularly monitored and we have seen no changes or 
degradation that would be expected if the RH was in fact >75%. I have replaced 
the sensors in the case with ones from a very stable area that maintains 55% RH 
and the sensor quickly read the same high RH but when I put it back in the area 
with a constant RH of 55% the RH reading has not come down in line with the 
other sensor in the area.

Does anyone have any experience of this happening in their collection? I think 
I heard once that VOCs can have an effect on the accuracy of RH sensors but I 
can't remember where I heard that. There may be painted MDF in part of the 
display mounts or on the objects may be off gassing. 

I would love to hear your ideas or advice.



Thank you


------------------------------
Sarah Coggins
Conservation Engineer
Mary Rose Trust
Southsea
United Kingdom
------------------------------


7.From: Chris Stavroudis
 Posted: Friday January 24, 2025  3:24 PM
 Subject: RE: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs
 Message: 
Hi Sarah,


Holding an ice cube to the glass would allow you to get an idea of the dew 
point inside the case.


chris


------------------------------
Chris Stavroudis
Paintings Conservator
Freelance/Private Practice/Self-employed/Independent
West Hollywood, California
United States
------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
Original Message:
Sent: 01-23-2025 11:40
From: Sarah Coggins
Subject: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs


Hello conservation community

We have two Hanwell RH and T sensors inside a showcase that are reading an RH 
of >75%. The temperature readings are in an acceptable range of 19-21 degrees 
centigrade. We cannot determine the cause of the high RH, the small HVAC 
systems in the case are turned off and isolated and there is no source of water 
anywhere near the case. The RH in the gallery is low, at around 30-40% although 
the case is well sealed at 0.23 air exchanges/ day. I have also put a good 
quantity of silicag gel in the case that has not brought the RH down as would 
be expected.

Equally in the past when cases have had high RH there has been condensation on 
the interior of the cases and this is not visible on the case in question. The 
objects inside the case are regularly monitored and we have seen no changes or 
degradation that would be expected if the RH was in fact >75%. I have replaced 
the sensors in the case with ones from a very stable area that maintains 55% RH 
and the sensor quickly read the same high RH but when I put it back in the area 
with a constant RH of 55% the RH reading has not come down in line with the 
other sensor in the area.

Does anyone have any experience of this happening in their collection? I think 
I heard once that VOCs can have an effect on the accuracy of RH sensors but I 
can't remember where I heard that. There may be painted MDF in part of the 
display mounts or on the objects may be off gassing. 

I would love to hear your ideas or advice.



Thank you


------------------------------
Sarah Coggins
Conservation Engineer
Mary Rose Trust
Southsea
United Kingdom
------------------------------


8.From: Sarah Coggins
 Posted: Friday January 24, 2025  3:24 PM
 Subject: RE: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs
 Message: Hello Kim 
  Thanks for your reply. Could you explain your answer a bit more. The lighting 
in the case is LEDs. How do sensors pick up sensitivity, what is the physical 
on the sensors?  
  Best regards  
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Original Message:
Sent: 1/24/2025 8:21:00 AM
From: Kim Hewitt
Subject: RE: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs


The sensor has picked up a sensitivity within the case. Possibly the light 
source for this case and how is it run and positioned.








------------------------------
Kim Hewitt
Brooklyn
United States
------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
Original Message:
Sent: 01-23-2025 11:40
From: Sarah Coggins
Subject: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs


Hello conservation community

We have two Hanwell RH and T sensors inside a showcase that are reading an RH 
of >75%. The temperature readings are in an acceptable range of 19-21 degrees 
centigrade. We cannot determine the cause of the high RH, the small HVAC 
systems in the case are turned off and isolated and there is no source of water 
anywhere near the case. The RH in the gallery is low, at around 30-40% although 
the case is well sealed at 0.23 air exchanges/ day. I have also put a good 
quantity of silicag gel in the case that has not brought the RH down as would 
be expected.

Equally in the past when cases have had high RH there has been condensation on 
the interior of the cases and this is not visible on the case in question. The 
objects inside the case are regularly monitored and we have seen no changes or 
degradation that would be expected if the RH was in fact >75%. I have replaced 
the sensors in the case with ones from a very stable area that maintains 55% RH 
and the sensor quickly read the same high RH but when I put it back in the area 
with a constant RH of 55% the RH reading has not come down in line with the 
other sensor in the area.

Does anyone have any experience of this happening in their collection? I think 
I heard once that VOCs can have an effect on the accuracy of RH sensors but I 
can't remember where I heard that. There may be painted MDF in part of the 
display mounts or on the objects may be off gassing. 

I would love to hear your ideas or advice.



Thank you


------------------------------
Sarah Coggins
Conservation Engineer
Mary Rose Trust
Southsea
United Kingdom
------------------------------


9.From: Christian Mueller-Straten
 Posted: Friday January 24, 2025  10:59 PM
 Subject: RE: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs
 Message: 
Hi Sarah,


I forgot to ask you two questions:


a) what is the reaction of your Hanwell providers? They were probably No 1 to 
ask. 


b) When was the data logger last calibrated and by whom? Is there a certificate 
for the last calibration?


Best


Christian


------------------------------
[Christian] [Mueller-Straten] [Researcher, Publisher, Art Historian]
[Owner]
[Verlag Dr. Christian Mueller-Straten]
[Munich] [Germany]
[0049-89-839 690 43]
[https://www.museum-aktuell.de] https://www.museum-aktuell.de/CEO
------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
Original Message:
Sent: 01-23-2025 11:40
From: Sarah Coggins
Subject: Hanwell  RH and T sensors and VOCs


Hello conservation community

We have two Hanwell RH and T sensors inside a showcase that are reading an RH 
of >75%. The temperature readings are in an acceptable range of 19-21 degrees 
centigrade. We cannot determine the cause of the high RH, the small HVAC 
systems in the case are turned off and isolated and there is no source of water 
anywhere near the case. The RH in the gallery is low, at around 30-40% although 
the case is well sealed at 0.23 air exchanges/ day. I have also put a good 
quantity of silicag gel in the case that has not brought the RH down as would 
be expected.

Equally in the past when cases have had high RH there has been condensation on 
the interior of the cases and this is not visible on the case in question. The 
objects inside the case are regularly monitored and we have seen no changes or 
degradation that would be expected if the RH was in fact >75%. I have replaced 
the sensors in the case with ones from a very stable area that maintains 55% RH 
and the sensor quickly read the same high RH but when I put it back in the area 
with a constant RH of 55% the RH reading has not come down in line with the 
other sensor in the area.

Does anyone have any experience of this happening in their collection? I think 
I heard once that VOCs can have an effect on the accuracy of RH sensors but I 
can't remember where I heard that. There may be painted MDF in part of the 
display mounts or on the objects may be off gassing. 

I would love to hear your ideas or advice.



Thank you


------------------------------
Sarah Coggins
Conservation Engineer
Mary Rose Trust
Southsea
United Kingdom
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