On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Tomas Kral <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On 03/18/2016 08:35 PM, Aaron Weitekamp wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Tomas Kral <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     On 03/15/2016 02:04 PM, Aaron Weitekamp wrote:
> >     > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 6:20 AM, Tomas Kral <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>
> >     > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     On 03/14/2016 07:11 PM, Aaron Weitekamp wrote:
> >     >     > On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Tomas Kral
> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
> >     <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >     >     > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > <mailto:[email protected]
> >     <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     Thank you, that makes sense, but this is also what was
> > afraid of :(
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     We want to be able to export any arbitrary application
> > that we know
> >     >     >     nothing about :(
> >     >     >     Now we need to figure out which object were generated
> > by OpenShift
> >     >     >     internally and which one were created by developer.
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     > ​You're introducing an additional requirement. :) Can you
> > confirm the
> >     >     > initial problem is resolved?
> >     >     >
> >     >
> >     >     Not really, because I don't know how application was deployed.
> >     >     My initial assumption that `oc export all` will somehow
> > magically solve
> >     >     this for every application was wrong :(
> >     >     If I'm the one who deployed application than yes, I know
> > what objects to
> >     >     export. But if someone else created application it is hard
> > for me to
> >     >     figure out what to export.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > ​I think we need to understand the full use case. Maybe there's
> >     > something that can be done to help you achieve what you're
> > looking for.
> >     > Right now it's hard to understand why the person who did the
> > original
> >     > deployment​
> >     > ​ isn't involved in the export or migration. Can you spell out what
> >     > you're trying to do?
> >     > ​
> >
> >     Sure.
> >
> >     (BTW: I'm CC'ing container-tools because we are starting to touch
> >     subjects that might be interesting for people there)
> >
> >     We are trying to build tool that will allow users to export
> > application
> >     from OpenShift as Nulecule application.
> >     Result should be Nulecule application with Kubernetes and OpenShift
> >     artifacts.
> >
> >     We have following users stories in mind:
> >
> >     1.
> >     I create an application in OpenShift.
> >     Now I want to export it so it can be placed in any registry and then
> >     redeployed into Kubernetes or OpenShift.
> >
> >
> > It's a good convention to add a label to every object created together,
> > something like app=<thing>
> > Then all of those things deployed together can be referenced, such as:
> >
> > oc export all -l app=<name> -n <my_namespace> --as-template=<name>
>
> And we are back to one of my original issues :-)
> If I do this as  you suggest, with 'all', then when deploying from this
> template I get some SE Linux error that sadly I know nothing about :(
> My current solution for this is to export everything except pods.
>

I just suggested using "all" to get all the things that were deployed
together. We know kube doesn't understand routes or templates or
deploymentconfigs or buildconfigs. So in my gist[1] I described the common
openshift-kubernetes objects.

[1] https://gist.github.com/aweiteka/a8bf75930e235879bcdd
​


>
>
> >
> > ​If you control the deployment you can pass this label in (web ui, oc
> > new-app, API).
> > ​
> >
> >
> >
> >     2.
> >     I created a new application from a bunch of 'container mirco-sevices'
> >     and components (i.e. a set of nested Nulecules, or templates)
> >              - for example, added management, added a DB etc etc.
> >
> >     Now I want to export the new composite definition and ->Retain<- the
> >     granularity  and nesting of my service definitions.
> >
> >
> > I
> > ​ would recommend unique labels so you can reference things separately.
> > ​
> >
> >
> >     Result would be set of Nulecule apps (some probably nested) and
> >     corresponding images that can be again placed in registry.
> >
> >
> >     3.
> >     I want to create a new mirco service using OpenShift
> >     I want to export it for OTHER to use.
> >
> >
> >
> >     Right now I'm focusing mainly on number one.
> >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     > If you're comfortable with exporting everything in a project
> >     then
> >     >     > replace "all" with the set of resources Clayton listed.
> >     >
> >     >     You and Clayton suggested doing `oc export dc,svc,route,is`
> >     but what if
> >     >     application also includes ReplicationControllers that were
> > created
> >     >     directly without DeploymentConfig?
> >     >     For example I have RC that was created "directly by user" and
> >     other RC
> >     >     that was created by DC. Now I need to export only first RC and
> >     instead
> >     >     of second one I should export DC.
> >     >
> >     >     It looks like, that for our use case, we need to export 'all'
> >     and than
> >     >     do some filtering.
> >     >     This is was what my followup question was about.
> >     >
> >     >     Is there a way how to figure out what objects were created by
> >     user and
> >     >     what objects were generated by OpenShift?
> >     >     Can annotations that I have mentioned be used for this?
> >     >
> >     >     > It is
> >     >     > dangerously presumptive that there's only one
> > "application" in a
> >     >     > project. You may export unexpected objects depending on what
> >     the user
> >     >     > has deployed in the project.​
> >     >
> >     >     This is deliberate simplification to make things little easier
> >     for us.
> >     >     We are exporting whole project, because right now I don't have
> >     any idea
> >     >     how we are going to decide what is "one application" or how
> >     user of this
> >     >     exporter should specify this.
> >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     I can see that ReplicationController that is generated by
> >     >     >     DeploymentConfig has annotation
> >     'openshift.io/deployment-config.name
> >     <http://openshift.io/deployment-config.name>
> >     >     <http://openshift.io/deployment-config.name>
> >     >     >     <http://openshift.io/deployment-config.name>:
> >     >     >     ...' and same apply for its Pods.
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     For Pod that was created by ReplicationController (that
> >     is not from
> >     >     >     DeploymentConfig) I see annotation
> >     'kubernetes.io/created-by <http://kubernetes.io/created-by>
> >     <http://kubernetes.io/created-by>
> >     >     >     <http://kubernetes.io/created-by>: ...'
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     Can we rely on those annotations to decide what to
> >     export and what to
> >     >     >     leave behind? Is this documented somewhere?
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     On 03/14/2016 04:48 PM, Clayton Coleman wrote:
> >     >     >     > Export is a lower level tool that does not *exactly*
> >     export an entire
> >     >     >     > application, but rather tries to give you the tools to
> >     build it.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > I would suggest instead of running "oc export all",
> >     you try "oc export
> >     >     >     > dc,svc,route,is".   "all" includes pods, replication
> >     controllers,
> >     >     >     > build configs, and builds, some of which you do not
> >     need.  We expect
> >     >     >     > at some point in the future to have a higher level
> >     "export-app"
> >     >     >     > command, but when you export you need to determine
> >     what you want to
> >     >     >     > copy over and what you want to leave behind.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Tomas Kral
> >     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
> >     <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >     >     >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
> >     >     >     >> Hi all,
> >     >     >     >> I'm working on project where we are basically using
> `oc
> >     >     export` for
> >     >     >     >> exporting project and importing it to another
> OpenShift
> >     >     instance.
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >> But it is not working as I would expect.
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >> My understanding of export feature is that it can
> > be used
> >     >     to move
> >     >     >     >> objects between clusters or projects and I can use `oc
> >     >     export all` to
> >     >     >     >> move/copy whole project.
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >> I've deployed MLB Parks sample application
> >     >     >     >> (https://github.com/gshipley/openshift3mlbparks)
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >> Then I'm trying to move it to another project on same
> >     cluster
> >     >     >     using command:
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >> oc -n mlbparks export all | oc -n import create -f -
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >> But I get following errors:
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >> Error from server: replicationControllers "mongodb-1"
> >     >     already exists
> >     >     >     >> Error from server: Pod "mlbparks-1-build" is
> forbidden:
> >     >     unable to
> >     >     >     >> validate against any security context constraint:
> > ......
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >> Rest of the error and all steps that I'm doing are
> > here:
> >     >     >     >> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/339618/96469114/
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >> I'm running Origin v1.1.1
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >> Is there something that is fundamentally wrong with my
> >     >     >     understanding of
> >     >     >     >> `oc export`?
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >>
> >     >     >     >> --
> >     >     >     >> Tomas
> >     >     >     >>
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