Jerome,

I call trade by after a square thru 3 often with no confusion.
The Sq Thru 3 has left them in a Trade By formation.

Here is a singing call figure I use to teach Trade By:
Hds F&B, Hds Sq 4
R&L Thru
Ps Thru, Trade By
Sq Thru 3, Trade By
Corner Swing, Promenade
The figure ends in a Corner Box so you have an Alle Left available in lieu
of the Corner Swing.

Rich

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 2:31 PM Jerome Grisanti <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Tony (and Rich and others),
>
> I'm just learning to call to MWSD dancers, and learning how to gauge what
> will work out of the box, what will work with a heads-up phrase, and what
> needs a little teach.
>
> With that in mind, how do you think dancers would respond to "trade by"
> without a preceeding "pass thru," to maintain a single progression. The
> power of habits.
>
> Jerome
>
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 1:57 PM Tony Parkes via Contra Callers <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I’ve led several Intro to Contras sessions at National S/D Conventions.
>> The first dance in the session was typically my Inflation Reel, with a
>> Trade By added after the Pass Thru. (Trade By: If you’re facing someone,
>> pass thru; if not, do a partner trade [like a California Twirl without
>> hands]). This gives a double progression and means I don’t have to explain
>> waiting at the ends or crossing over. I’ve always also used Shadrack’s
>> Delight, which I wrote to appeal to traditional dancers and MWSDers alike.
>>
>>
>>
>> For the most part, I’ve found that MWSDers quickly get into the groove of
>> dancing to the phrase, as long as they’re in longways formation. (I tell
>> them that contra dancing is “square dance basics with round dance timing.”)
>> But the moment I put them in squares, with the hope of doing some of my
>> favorite Lancers or other quadrille figures, they think they can “relax”
>> and clip the timing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tony Parkes
>>
>> Billerica, Mass.
>>
>> www.hands4.com
>>
>> New book! Square Dance Calling: An Old Art for a New Century
>>
>> (available now)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Rich Sbardella via Contra Callers <
>> [email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2023 12:29 PM
>> *To:* Caller's discussion list <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [Callers] Contras for a Crowd that does not Swing
>>
>>
>>
>> Friends,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been asked to lead an intro to contra dance session at a square
>> dance convention.
>>
>>
>>
>> I will have time to lead 3-4 contras, and I am looking for suggestions.
>>
>> My main concern is that most modern square dancers do not swing, they
>> simply twirl under.  With that in mind, I need contras which have no more
>> than an eight count swing yet reflect the spirit of the modern contra
>> scene.
>>
>>
>>
>> One major difference between contra dance and MWSD is square dancers are
>> not trained to dance to the phrase of the music.  I will most likely begin
>> with a circle mixer to encourage a full 8 count swing and to emphasize
>> dancing to the phrase.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not looking for contra dances with MWSD basics, but rather typical
>> contra basics.  Any suggestions?  I can certainly find some among my
>> collection, but perhaps there is a gem I might miss.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rich Sbardella
>>
>> Stafford, CT
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