correct.

Also I just saw one of my dancers so I asked her -she confirmed that it worked 
great the other evening, and everyone enjoyed it :)

Sep 27, 2023 5:34:56 PM Jeff Kaufman via Contra Callers 
<[email protected]>:

> To confirm, is this the timing we're talking about?
> 
> (8) Long lines forward and back
> (2) Walk forward
> (4) Balance
> (2) Pass through, turn single
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 9:45 AM Katherine Kitching via Contra Callers 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> haha I was unsure it would work when I called it for the first time the 
>> other night - but it worked great!!
>> 
>> Previously I had done LLFB, LLF and pull by, LLFB, LLF and pull by--
>> 
>> but my dancers did it so fast and energetically there was a super long and 
>> awkward pause after they pulled by and turned to face their partner again.
>> 
>> the secret is, it only takes them 2 counts to get close enough to rt-hand 
>> balance.
>> 
>> so it's 1-2 (walk), 1-2-3-4 (balance), and 1-2 pass by and turn - that part 
>> is admittedly fast, but they enjoyed the challenge of it and it really 
>> livened up this beginner-oriented dance.
>> 
>> Sep 27, 2023 10:40:00 AM Tony Parkes via Contra Callers 
>> <[email protected]>:
>> 
>>> “- LLFB, LLF, balance pull by:, LLFB, LLF, balance pull by again”
>>> 
>>> Will someone please explain the timing of this sequence? I get 8 steps for 
>>> LLFB, 4 for LLF, 4 for a balance, and 4 for a pull by, adding up to 20; but 
>>> I assume it’s intended to be done in 16. (I’m assuming that “turn to face 
>>> in” is done as part of the pull by – no problem there.) Is there actually 
>>> no LLF apart from the balance?
>>> 
>>> Tony Parkes
>>> Billerica, Mass.
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>>> (available now)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *From:* Katherine Kitching via Contra Callers 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2023 9:33 AM
>>> *To:* Joe Harrington <[email protected]>
>>> *Cc:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* [Callers] Re: Most-Easiest Duple Minors in existence
>>> 
>>> lol "full washing machine" - I hadn't heard that before!
>>> 
>>> I agree on avoiding the full one as much as possible - but I quite like 
>>> just a circle-left-circle-right - brings the group together for some smiles 
>>> and allows for fancy footwork for those who want to throw in a little 
>>> something extra.
>>> 
>>> But it may be interesting to ask the group to compile a list of 
>>> beginner-friendly figures, beyond the very basic ones like allemandes and 
>>> do si dos, that could be used to put together some dances of the type that 
>>> you (and I, always!!) are seeking?
>>> 
>>> My criteria would be:
>>> 
>>> - does not take anyone out of home place
>>> (or takes them out temporarily but puts them back again, such as pulling by 
>>> your partner across the set, but then pulling by again within the next 1 or 
>>> 2 moves).
>>> 
>>> - doesn't involve anything that is known to cause confusion for total 
>>> beginners, such as courtesy turns or heys.
>>> 
>>> _Here are some that I like:_
>>> 
>>> - do si do as couples
>>> 
>>> - LLFB, LLF, balance pull by:, LLFB, LLF, balance pull by again
>>> 
>>> - take 4 steps left then 4 steps right, around the oval
>>> 
>>> - turn and walk individually around the oval for 8, then back for 8
>>> 
>>> - balance and spin the star (as per Louise S)
>>> 
>>> - balance the ring, then 2 hand balance your partner
>>> 
>>> - holding hands, veer right then left with your partner to progress
>>> 
>>> - what else?? :)
>>> 
>>> Sep 27, 2023 12:44:51 AM Joe Harrington <[email protected]>:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks for this thread!  My group is tired of me bailing out to a small 
>>>> collection of trivial contras (Airpants, Midwest Folklore...).
>>>> 
>>>> How about the easiest dance *that experienced dancers don't mind dancing*? 
>>>> I have always disliked the "full washing machine" of circle left, circle 
>>>> right, star right, star left.  Even a half-wash makes my shoulders sag, 
>>>> inwardly.  Of course, I will try to do them with a smile and encourage 
>>>> both the new dancers and the caller.  But, surely we can make it a little 
>>>> more interesting without losing the newbies.  Airpants and Midwest 
>>>> Folklore do, though they involve swings. Elbow or crossed-hand swings are 
>>>> fine for this and don't need to be taught outside of a walkthrough. If I'm 
>>>> using these dances in a workshop, I do tell the experienced dancers not to 
>>>> teach the ballroom swing, we'll get to that in a minute.  Otherwise, they 
>>>> all try.
>>>> 
>>>> --jh--
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 7:27 PM Katherine Kitching via Contra Callers 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Here are a couple more that I wrote, that I called the other night and 
>>>>> went very well.
>>>>> (again, I haven't searched to see if they exist already)
>>>>> 
>>>>> these all build on the skills we did in my "very simple contra" in the 
>>>>> sicilian formation, that I outlined in a previous message.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. "Off they go"
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Circle left
>>>>> - Circle right
>>>>> - LLFB
>>>>> - (still holding hands) - walk 4 steps left then 4 steps right (or call 
>>>>> it a giant oval left then right if you prefer)
>>>>> 
>>>>> - partner do si do
>>>>> - neighbour left hand turn (allemande)
>>>>> - partner 2 hand balance twice (I suggest the convention of veering 
>>>>> slightly to the left the first balance, and slightly to the right on the 
>>>>> second, for interest)
>>>>> - holding inside hands with your partner facing the other couple, veer on 
>>>>> a forward right diagonal to pass the other couple, then on a forward left 
>>>>> diagonal to meet the next couple
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. "first out of place dance" (at a brisk pace)
>>>>> people found this very fun!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> - circle left
>>>>> - circle right
>>>>> - partner do si do
>>>>> - neighbour 2 hand balance once, and baby turn (ie switch places, by 
>>>>> circling while holding 2 hands in the same direction you would in a 2 
>>>>> hand turn or swing - can also say - switch places with your neighbour, 
>>>>> with the ravens going on the inside)
>>>>> 
>>>>> - LLFB
>>>>> - LLF, balance partner by the right one time and pull by (to switch 
>>>>> places w partner)
>>>>> - LLFB
>>>>> - LLF, just pull by the right (no balance) - give a little nod and stomp 
>>>>> to your old group, turn to face the new
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3. " first down the hall dance"
>>>>> 
>>>>> -1's split the 2's and all walk down the hall in line of 4, turn alone
>>>>> - come on back, bend line
>>>>> - circle left
>>>>> - circle right
>>>>> 
>>>>> - partner left shoulder round
>>>>> - neighbour right hand turn (allemande)
>>>>> - all circle left again
>>>>> - left hand star to new group
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4. "first swing (or 2 hand turn) dance"
>>>>> 
>>>>> - N bal and 2 hand turn (or swing, depending on level of dancers), for 16
>>>>> - LLFB
>>>>> - Partner left shoulder round
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Neighbour right shoulder round
>>>>> - circle left
>>>>> - circle right
>>>>> - balance the circle one time, 2 hand balance your partner one time, turn 
>>>>> to face new group
>>>>> 
>>>>> There were 2 more dances in my sequence after this, but they wouldn't 
>>>>> qualify as super easy.  (though probably still easier than most of you 
>>>>> call!! :) )
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Kat k
>>>>> in Hfx, NS, CA
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