I’m think you both make good points — to that end I did whip up a script that 
will take json from the callers box website and output a markdown file in my 
template, I can share if there’s interest.

I think to me the difference between transcribing and understanding is the 
boilerplate — that is, I don’t want to rewrite my template, but I would rewrite 
the directions to, say, omit slurs and go from more of a positional point of 
view. But what’s not useful to me is rewriting my markdown table.

Sent from my mobile device, please excuse my brevity.

~James Slaughter

On Jan 12, 2025, at 4:02 PM, Erik Hoffman via Contra Callers 
<[email protected]> wrote:


From Louise Siddons:
Also, specifically in terms of programming (which someone mentioned), there are 
aspects of calling where experience is a key element of the learning process. 
Shortcuts will be detrimental to the caller’s experience even if the dancers 
don’t notice.

From me:
This is much like late Larry Jennings’ decision to transcribe dances in his 
book, Zesty Contras and Give-and-Take with abbreviations and in a form that was 
not common in the time. His thinking was people using his books would have to 
think about the dance they were planning to call had to think about the dance 
as they re-transcribed it. I recall the challenge of putting dances down on a 
card (remember those?) (and I know people still use cards…) from Zesty Contras 
and doing just what Larry intended: thinking a dance through as I put it down 
in my re-abbreviated cards.

Cheers,
~Erik Hoffman
        Oakland CA

From: Louise Siddons via Contra Callers <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 12:35 PM
To: Shared Weight Contra Callers <[email protected]>
Subject: [Callers] Re: Unifying contra dance formats with AI



AI is resource-intensive and an environmental disaster. Using it for trivial 
purposes feels worse than pointless to me.



Also, specifically in terms of programming (which someone mentioned), there are 
aspects of calling where experience is a key element of the learning process. 
Shortcuts will be detrimental to the caller’s experience even if the dancers 
don’t notice.



In the spirit of slow food, might we not consider ‘slow folk dance’ as taking a 
positive, sustainable position in relation to the climate crisis? There is no 
actual need to make anything related to contra dancing more efficient.



(I’m reminded of the joke that dancing is a very complicated way of going 
nowhere. Surely in some sense we embody the idea that the journey is the 
destination?)



Louise.

(Winchester, UK)

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