On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Rick Thomas wrote:

> First of all:  Thanks! Stew, for the pointers.  That was (most of) what I
> needed.
> 
> Now, the "Hmmm...' part:
> 
> Well... After some puzzling over the "urpmi.addmedia(8)" man page (some
> examples would be really helpful on that manpage.)  I decided to do
>     urpmi.addmedia --distrib removable://dev/cdrom
> with the bluebird CD1 in the drive.  That seems to have gotten package list
> info for both CD1 and CD2 and integrated it into the database.  (I was
> totally unable to figure out how to accomplish this using the gui in
> rpmdrake -- even after perusing the tutorial from the CD1.  Am I just dumb,
> or is there a section missing from the tutorial on adding new CD media?)
> 
> Then I did, as Stew suggested,
>     urpmi --autoselect
> and it updated/installed a bunch of packages.  So I guess everything's cool.
> (Once again, I was totally unable to figure out how to accomplish this with
> the rpmdrake gui.  Thank goodness for command language interfaces! says I.)
> 

Guess I could have gone into more detail. ;^)  The Mandrake tools are a
little light on man pages.  Developers don't really like to document much,
but I'm glad you worked it out.  I tend to use the command line more
myself. In rpmdrake, it's under "Define Sources", and then "New".  Once
you do this, I believe "Mandrake Update" may do the updating for you, but
I could be wrong (I use urpmi most of the time).

> I still have some questions:
> 
> 1) Did it install any new kernel parts?  If so, what do I have to do to take
> advantage of them?  (Even if there were no kernel changes between
> PPC/8.2beta2 (cooker) and PPC/8.2 (bluebird), the question still stands.
> How do I take advantage of new kernel stuff, when it becomes available?)  Do
> I need to rerun ybin?
> 

This I do know about.  Part of rpm install of a kernel runs
"installkernel" which makes an initrd if needed, and adds a yaboot entry
and runs ybin.  Your old kernel is left as the default, but you should now
be able to choose the new one at the yaboot prompt.  My last kernel
update, aside from the rebuild I just did for ide-cs was:

* Wed Mar 27 2002 Stew Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1-1mdk

- new rivafb patches for PPC, from Ani Joshi/YDL
- 2.4.18-6.1mdk.

(there was also an experimental power management build, that I pulled, as
it didn't help those folks with sleep problems)

> I'm not a total newby -- I've read the ybin and yaboot (& so on) man pages
> (and understood them! -- compared to urpmi(8) and cousins, they managed to
> make the normally murky subject [of booting a kernel] crystal clear.).
> 

> 2) When I try to install security patches from one of the mirror sites,
> using the Mandrake Updater, it locates them just fine, but refuses to do the
> updates because the two packages (sudo and imlib) that need updating are
> "already installed".  Indeed they are already installed, but the installed
> version is the buggy/insecure one.  How do I get it to do what I want?  Am I
> missing a check-box or pull-down menu somewhere?
> 

Ahh,  we just had an internal discussion on this, again.  As things stand
now, the updater will not work for PPC, for a couple of reasons:

1) rpmdrake needs a patch to look in the right path for PPC updates
2) the web page that lists the update source doesn't even have entries for
PPC

I'm trying to get the appropriate folks the act on these, but until them
you'll have to manually download the updates.

Stew Benedict

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