i can see that we both started on the right page.
commodore 64 too? that's what i started on...remember trying to get graphics
on that puppy (called sprites)? lol. would spend an entire 7-10 days trying
to create a custom sprite, that at the end, would look like a picture of a
"dropped" icecream cone on the pavement (or worse)(lol).
every now and then i hear "commodore 64"....weird now that it's been a 1 1/2
decades or so later...(if i got my timing right on that).
On Sat, 05 Feb 2000, you wrote:
>
> Dude, what planet are you on?? Does your text on you screen scroll from
> bottom to top? If you type cls, is your cursor at the bottom of the screen?
> When you go to write an email, do you start at the bottom and work up?
>
> If so, then continue on, you will find no intelligent beings on this planet.
>
> Seriously, on every computer I have dealt with (and this only goes back to
> the Commodore 64), text has always started at the top and went down.
>
> Now, my question to the developers is: Do you want to make this user
> friendly or not? If you want to confuse the heck outta people, then listen
> to this guy. If you want to attract newbies (which I'm assuming as is the
> case since all this work was put in on something that the experts don't
> need), then I would suggest not confusing the newbies. BTW, anyone ever see
> NASA's countdown? Blast Off is not at the top. It counts down, then takes
> off.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Stodden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 5:46 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 7 ISO V2 soon avalaible
>
>
> On Sat, 05 Feb 2000, Guy T. Rice wrote:
>
> > Ron Stodden wrote:
> >
> > > Install steps on the left are upside down - Configure X should be at
> > > the top, Select Installation Class at the bottom. Progress is
> > > conventionally displayed as left to right or upwards (Climbing a tree,
> the
> > > path to heaven, etc.). so as better to conform to a traffic signal
> etaphor,
> > > and conform to 1st quadrant geometry that every one is used to and
> > > understands.
> >
> > Please please PLEASE do not do this! That would be extraordinarily
> > confusing! Checklists are normally filled out top to bottom, same as the
> > order English text is normally read in (left to right, top to bottom).
> And
> > I'm not sure what he's talking about with the traffic signal thing; which
> > traffic signals, GO is at the bottom, so if we're going to use a traffic
> > signal metaphor, we need to get to the bottom before we're ready to GO
> (i.e.
> > boot). I expect 98% of Mandrake users would find the checklist going from
> > the bottom to the top, especially if readable labels are next to each
> item,
> > to be extremely counter-intuitive. Ron is obviously in the other 2%. But
> > as long as text labels are next to each item, and those text labels are
> > written in English, they MUST go from top to bottom to obey standard
> English
> > conventions (read from top to bottom).
>
> Alas, but no. Software is a branch of engineering, not of literature.
> A product of reality, not of fantasy. Installation of software on blank
> hardware involves the installation of successive layers, each on top of, and
> dependent upon, the one below. A good examplary metaphor is building a
> house (or a car, or a bridge, or for that matter, a relationship) .
> First you must establish the foundation, then build on top of that the
> floor, and so on. And finally, the roof, at the top.
>
> Would you erect the roof first? Then somehow build downwards?
>
> Awareness of the layered structure of software is essential to understanding
> and using Linux on your computer. Memory and disk maps are
> conventionally drawn with address 000000 at the bottom, and filled up from
> the bottom, just like a glass is filled with liquid or the way bricks are
> organised into a wall.
>
> Would you fill a glass somehow beginning at the top?
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.
>
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