On Monday 10 March 2003 12:53 am, George Mitchell wrote:
> Robert L Martin wrote:
>> Problems with ATI and nVidea products.

> And the real irony here of course is that ATI chipsets are NOT closed
> source.

Er, AFAIK, they are, but OSS X drivers have been written anyway. There are 
also OSS X drivers for the NVidia cards, but no decent 3D (haven't tried 
4.3.0 yet), for the same reason. The day I get decent 3D speed out of an OSS 
driver is the same day NVidia's software black boxes leave my system.

> My ATI Radeon in fact works splendidly with OPEN SOURCE
> XFree/DRI software under Red Hat 8.0.

OK, so what's the difference? Perhaps unpacking and diff'ing the appropriate 
RPMs is in order? Now, before release?

> The same is true of /dev/sequencer support under a number of
> cards that used to work with OPEN SOURCE drivers but no longer do.  When
> you ask questions you face silence, or some wise one chiming in with 'Oh
> thats because its proprietary'.  The world will forgive Linux companies
> for NOT supporting closed source products like nVidia, but OPEN SOURCE
> hardware that does not work simply because the priorities are elsewhere
> will not play well with potential desktop consumers and attempting to
> paint known open source products as being closed will not play well
> either.

True.

Cheers; Leon


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