On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 19:41, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote: > On Mon 2003-03-17 at 11:43:00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Le lun 17/03/2003 � 12:07, Greg Meyer a �crit : > > > > So, I ask, what is worse? This scenario, or doing the supposedly bad > > > > thing and logging in as root? > > Cannot resist to comment :) > > The scenario is worse... as example. First, someone *not* leaving the > meeting room on a call is quite impolite. Second, a company who has at > least two people acting as admin should be able to get some basic > installation/training (i.e. using sudo). > > [...] > > I know how to fix that, but telling an ex Windows sysadmin how to do it, > > and then waiting for them to find their 9.1 CDs (what if the guy left > > them at home or loaned them to a guy in another department), or helping > > them setup urpmi to download the package (assuming they have a broadband > > internet connection), is a support nightmare. > > urpmi.setup? > > And you don't need broadband to install kdm. Needs probably less than > 5 minutes with a modem. > > > Wasn't krootwarning and the big bad red backgound not enough to get the > > message that running as root is dangerous? However, do we have to force > > that down people's throats? > > IMNSHO, yes. The people who are able to grasp the implications of what > the warning is about will have no major problems in following some > instructions to replace the dm. > > On the other hand, the typical MS Windows user/admin will simply hit > "OK", because they are used to do this all the time (that is not meant > as a flame, but personal experience with MS Windows users).
On this point .. had a friend of mine who would always install a little program he had on windows systems... If would randomly pop up the usual window message and since most windows users didn't read them... if you clicked OK it turned the box off. No harm done, but my fav is one guy who reported "Everytime I click ok the box turns off" We told him "Then don't click ok!" He then said something that made me think. "But you have to click ok don't you?" > > So, yes, IMNSHO someone who doesn't know enough about a system to > simply install a different package shouldn't log in as root under a > GUI. In the long run they will screw something up and you will have > much more work effectively. > > Bye, > > Benjamin. > >
