> On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 01:20:00PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 08:55:18PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
> > only because noone has already scripted for him something that is > functional?, I am positive m$ exchange does not auto create a mailbox > for every user on windows system, but probably the mailbox creation > wizard is able to create a system user, not sure tough. I think it's just another checkbox when creating the user in Active Directory (or maybe if you give them an email address). I am not saying that we *need* to auto-create, but why must a user write scripts, instead of being able to check the checkbox (or put an email address in). >>Well, then where is the administration tool. And I don't mean another >> web-based interface. Why do we need 17 web interfaces to get the same >> functionality as one UI framework in Windows? > > cos' we don't even agree on the need of a single configuration > interface, let alone working on this. > So, do we then rather agree that to setup the equivalent of a Windows Small Business Edition Server (comes with MSSQL, MS Proxy, Exchange, MSSQL and client access licenses for 5, max of 50 users) to do everything that you can do with the nice friendly easy-to-learn GUI tools, we need to teach the user how to use: 1)Webmin 2)SWAT (since ksambaplugin isn't in main) 3)Linuxconf / Linuxconf-web 4)Mandrake Control Center 5)Mandrake Wizards 6)mysqladmin (if webmin isn't enough) 7)Directory administrator 8)gq (for the things (8) can't do) 9)some web admin tool for cyrus And yet, after using all these tools, there is still nothing to setup LDAP (and/or kerberos), such as being able to do all the configuration as at http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/samba-ldap-advanced.php, which Windows prompts you to do, very easily, at first login, including all managing all the replication, default ACLs, kerberos integration, etc etc. So we agree there is no need for a single consistent user interface with good config file management (preservation of comments etc etc). OK, then I will stop working on a libconf (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/LibconfProject) backend for OpenLDAP and maybe rather package yet another web frontend, if I can find one for OpenLDAP (all webmin and Linuxconf modules are nowhere near being usable). Regards, Buchan