Ok,

        I can understand the download to avoid royalty fees, but that is a very
large download for one program.  Last time i downloaded SO 5.2B it was
around 70M...and of course it was not on a mirror so even on a cable modem
it took forever.
        If I go out and spend 50-100$ for an distribution, I expect it to have all
the latest stable versions, and not have to download programs like SO.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Stefan van der Eijk
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 1:18 PM
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Subject: Re: crypto stuff on 2nd cd ; was: [Cooker] GET READY FOR A
DISCUSSION- Include the contents ofthe mandrakeusr.org sit on the second
CD


> > How about including Star office 5.X on it? That is a free program, but
> > not sure if Sun would agree to it.

> This is not really free [for example, we pay royalties for each printed
> CD].
Fair, that's the way it is...

> For the moment our politics are to limit as much as possible the amount of
> non open-source stuff on main installation CD [which is, now, CD
> Installation and CD Extension]
OK, what however could be provided is some kind of "rpm-wrapper" for
these
"closed software" programs. Maybe some kind of mechanism can be made
which
performs the following tasks:

- An icon show up in a "to be installed closed software menu"
- When you click the icon, the software will be downloaded from the
  software makers site ($un Micro$y$tem$ in this case) and an RPM
  will be made & installed.
- Key is that the rpm which is made is "taylored" for mandrake. Which
  means that the menu items are in place, the files are placed in a
work-able
  place on the disk (according to the FS standards that mandrake lives
to),
  etc. etc. etc.

Goal of this mechanism will be:
- Not needing to distribute this software with the CD's (royalties)
- User performs "task" (one mouse-click) to download & install the
  software.
- User is provided with the "comfort" of a Mandrake packaged RPM.
- Updates of new "closed software" packages (acroread, staroffice,
  WP??) can be provided with this mechanism.

I know it goes far...

Stefan van der Eijk


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