On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 03:49:49PM +0000, FACORAT Fabrice wrote:
> Le ven 27/06/2003 � 17:58, andre a �crit :
> > On Friday 27 June 2003 15:04, Michael Scherer wrote:
> > >
> > > this is more a request for kde or gnome, you should file a bug report in
> > > their bugzilla, this sound like a good idea.
> > This is not a gnome or kde issue. This should be done on a very low level so 
> > ALL programs will use the trash.
> 
> Please don't put trash in low level. let low level be "simple"  and you
> will have less security problems.
> 
> Trash should be manage by the D.E ( Gnome, KDE, WM, ... ) and their
> should have a common trash for all theses D.E. it means that
> http://www.freedesktop.org/ should edicts a stanard for trash so that
> wherever D.E you are using you will have the same trash.  Move file to
> trash on KDE, retore it on Gnome.
> 
For what I was looking for: some poor man backup for the 
not so experienced users, it needs to be a general mechanism.

To me it seems like  an extended drakbackup, with backup tarbals
as of today and backup filelists as of today, plus
some minor script to browse the current living file hierachy, 
display the available versions for a filename, which was either selected
by browsing, or entered manually, and then extract
the solicited backup, would well satisfy my wishes.
This would also be close to what Microsoft is offering.

About the other mechanisms, these could be planned for by making eg the
restore of a file be done by a well-defined API or utility, that
could in the future be enhanced to cater for one or more of the
other technologies, such as:

1. file system intrinsic versioning and restore, ala reiserfs
2. user library overwriting of system calls, such as libtrash
3. system trash handling of system calls, with trash files staying on
   the same filesystem, and garbage collection, as I proposed
4. GUI trash handling such as KDE, Gnome. 

To achive my goal of bringing backup to the masses, it would also be
beneficial if the defaults for drakbackup be made more encompassing,
such as defaulting to all data of the ordinary users, and probably also
the system itself, (maybe only changed system files tho), and
drakbackup having a more visible place in the install procedure.

best regards
Keld

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