Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 11:45:26PM +0200, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: >> I'd like to propose that we start operating this distro in "WiKi" mode. >> >> IMHO these access controll restrictions are causing more trouble >> (friction) than they do good. >> >> What we need is clear reporting on what has been going on (auditability) >> and let people make the changes that are needed. Nobody benefits from >> these requests being echoed in lists (first cooker, now maintainers) >> untill some demi-god finally has the time to pick it up and execute the >> change. We are not 4-year-olds anymore. Nobody that has access to these >> systems is here to break things. In principle everything everybody does >> on these systems is meant in a positive way. > > For that matter the separation between main and contrib is completely > arbitrary and not useful anymore. The only place the separation has any > effect is on security updates. And that is easily handled by just > saying that only packages shipped on the CDs are supported for security > updates. But then as far as I'm concerned there should also be a way > for contributors to update their packages for security issues (and no > the club is not a solution to that).
IMNSHO: - Separation between contrib and main is good. It provides a clear way to separate packages by quality, usability and usefulness. - Restrictions in uploading/moving packages. Most of the troubles you are talking about are my fault, not being able to handle requests in time. However, rpmctl should be my answer to this problem, it is currently only in beta version but already allow packages removal from the contributors, next step will be to do the upload part. But, I do still have the weakness to think that in some way some kind of centralized power is good. I agree that the contributors are not children and do not want in any way anyhting but the good of the distro. However at some point someone must have a overview of the distro and be in charge of maintaining the whole thing in the good direction. -- Warly
