Le sam 19/07/2003 � 14:18, Thierry Vignaud a �crit : > eg: when french political people speak about immigrants, they always > say they must be assimilated instead of integrated/welcomed. or > look for the number of poeple who want to forbid muslim weil[1] in > schools or public bureaucracy whereas of course showing a > catholical cross is not a problem (the idea being forbidding > proselytism...)
1�/ at least the crux can be hidden under your shirt if you don't want to disturb people. 2�/ the crux is small, you have to be aware to noticed it most of the time. 3�/ now you should have a weil and you will see how you will feel. > about the weil, catholic sisters often got authorized bo be weiled > on their ids but now police chief is talking about forbiding it > for muslums. 1�/ they are sisters ! like priest they are a little bit different. If muslim have sister it won't be a pb. Now for common people I found it ... 2�/ look about who wear the weil. Not the first migrants ( mothers ) but the second/third generation. To my mind it seems to be a regression. 3�/ go in the city and you will see some very "interesting" things conceirning girls/women status. Do you know "ni putes, ni soumises" association ? > you just only see the so called "human rights country" surface. eg: > most french people will tell you we've the best social/assurance > system of the world despite we do not live longer :-) we live longer than americans for example. if you are not rich, try to have medicine or be heal in US/GB. Why does you have some britains that comes in some french hospital ? You have some silly things in french system, people you cheat, but at least if you are not rich you have survive well. > but as every other country in the world, it has its drawbacks. sure, u're completly right > france is not as opened as it seems. > > and it's the same for so called regional/minority languages: in 1992, > our House of Representatives make a law to protect french language > against the so called "english language imperialism" (!!!); they told > us that it would never be used againts minority langugaes. The pb you see was the fact that at this time everywhere you had english words ( pub, tv, etc ... ). English was "cool". I have nothing against english, but if you can't use freench words in a pub/ad, or at least translate it ( as not everybody speak english, and french are very bad concerning foreign languages ) it's a pb. > no, of course they do not make fun about those who want to learn > french and britton (or any other minority language) I' m willing to be able to learn creol as I'm from F.W.I ( Guadeloupe ) > > > [1] the question of male/female equality being not the same problem as > accepting foreign people habits It's not habits. If you were in Iran before the ayatollah, or in Syrie, you will see that many women where not wearing weil, or it was little. It is not habits, it's a religious things, and as it's in the laws : no religious things too visible. Have Fatma hand, or whatever you want put the weil ... And for swimming pool ? Are you going to have a discimination with this ? or are you going to separate men/women ?
