Quoting "\"Andrey Borzenkov\" " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> I probably have to add signature - I do not receive Cooker. Cc to me
> if you want me to respond.
> 
> > just a short and dumb question,
> > how will be chosen the configuration method to use(2.4 or 2.6)
> 
> I do not understand the question. configuration method is drakmouse
> or whatever. it does not depend on kernel. but it must emit something
> suitable for both kernels.

sorry for not being clear,
what i meant is mousedrake makes a single configuration file,
and probably somewhere in the initscripts or eventually devfsd
adjusts the used mice devices according to the running kernel 2.4 or 2.5
(hm i probably can not explain it properly because i'm thinking about the mice
as an independent devices used by different users, and on a standard kernel 
this is not the case)

> > with oder words, what kind of problem should expect in case
> > i'm running 2.4 with the input from 2.6 
> > in a not that common way: local XFree multi-user
> 
> you can't. if you running 2.4 you are running input from 2.4

with std 2.4 or mandrake's 2.4 ( as no one once to accept/look into my kernel 
packages) you can't, but you can do it with backstreet ruby :)

http://startx.times.lv
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XFree-Local-multi-user-HOWTO/

> > PS.
> > about PS2 devices: are they going to be loaded even if not present
> > (you mentioned modprobe.conf)
> 
> I mentioned modprobe.preload. Credits to maintainers who still not
> updated mkinitrd and initscripts.
> 
> they are going to be loaded if they are configured to be loaded.
> So far we do not have hotplugging for these devices so they are
> going to be configured statically yes.

may be i'll have to add something similar to the alternative of modprobe.preload
under 2.4(is it /etc/modules ?) or continue to make different packages for PS2 
and HID input
 
> > about mice alocation: we have a very hackish input.agent which works
> > but ... is really hackish and probably wont work both with std 2.4 > and
> 2.6 kernel.
> > http://varna.demon.co.uk/~svetlio/aivils/mdk/input.agent
> 
> good, I'll get a look. I probably integrate it into devfsd though.
> hotplug is not the right place to do it in presence of devfs. input
> agent must load input handlers and it will do it this week with depmod
> help.
> 
> your input agent actually does the same as udev. I am seriously
> considering snathing namedev out of it as devfsd action handler.
> 
> anyway we have problem - user most likely installs and configures
> mouse under 2.4 so 2.6 specific information (like DEVPATH) simply
> is not available.

yes but on normal system aren't all mice used as a single input?
that simplifies the situation as /dev/input/mice can be used, or did i miss 
smth?  

you might also want to check  http://people.debian.org/~warp/evdev/
event interface support for XFree.

with it you can use DEVNAME under 2.4 and 2.5 and DEVPATH under 2.5 or 
backstreet ruby.

the mouse part of the patches worked for me, but i got really serious problems 
with the keyboard mapings

> [...] the rest omitted due to inability to do proper quouting using
> copy'n'paste from web archive.
> 
> -andrey
> 


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