On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Ben Reser wrote:

> As far as I know mdkkdm doesn't let you type in a user name (I haven't
> tried it in a long time).  That's the one thing that bugs me.  I prefer
> to keep the list of users displayed down but there are some users that I
> want to log in as from time to time (e.g. my test user).

Well, with mdkkdm you can have either one or the other, but not both. You 
can get to user selections in the icon version by typing, but you can't 
log in as a user not in the list.

> 
> What I've never really understood is if they wanted to simplify the DM,
> why didn't they modify kdm to have such a mode, contribute it upstream
> to the KDE people, and then set it as default.  Anyone that doesn't like
> it can simply change the mode in kcontrol...  
> 

Well, I guess they could still. IMHO adding a GUI control to the config 
for kdm to enable/disable/configure XDMCP would be better.

> It would avoid a lot of the complaining that has happened, IMHO.  While
> I think mdkkdm is silly, I'm not demanding that they take it out.  I'm
> more than happy to change it after the install...

Well, I think the point we should persue is to either:
-have them address the sticking issues
-decide whether it may be better to default to kdm instead of mdkkdm

I think addding yet another choice to the installer is ridiculous, it's 
better to have sane defaults than excessive compulsory configuration 
steps.

I actually still use mdkkdm on all my machines, my biggest complaint is 
the issue with the reboot dialog not showing the bootloader entries 
(there's also the matter of the "Login" button not reacting to the enter 
key after selecting a window manager), and my feature request is to have 
something done so the "New session" option in the KDE menu works 
out-the-box (ie by having /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers have reserve entries)

Regards,
Buchan

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