-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ken Thompson wrote: > On Sunday 03 August 2003 06:20 pm, Robert L Martin wrote:
> I think something along this line is what I was trying to get accross.. I > wasn't at all emotional, just pointing out that many others don't like mdkkdm > and that I personally detest it. NO, the reason I detest it is not because I > can't log in as root automatically, I very seldom log in as root, BUT I want > the choice. The choice to log in as root? But you just said that was *not* the reason you didn't like it. So, if root login was possible by default with mdkkdm (you can easily do this, although root will then appear in the icon list), would you then not detest it? > There are times when logging in as root can make things much > simpler than trying to remember the CLI command for a given program and > having to Ctrl-Alt-F1, log in as root, init 3 and startx is way too much > trouble.. Well, maybe you should list the programs you want to be able to run as root from a menu, and they can be fixed to run via kdesu or similar. I assume you weren't wanting to run OpenOffice.org, Mozilla, etc etc as root. The programs that you can run as root directly from the menu on a default installation are: - -konqueror - -konsole - -most non-desktop entries in the Configuration sub-menu, except for some of those in Configuration->Other If thet tool you want to run as root is not configured as such by default, all you have to do (in KDE) is drag and drop the menu entry to your desktop (or the quick-start bar), right-click->properties->execute->"Run as different user"->root. > Simply being able to log out of KDE and relogin as what ever user > I choose, root or otherwise, is in my opinion a better way to use the > flexibility of Linux.. Sounds like "insecure by default", which linux cannot afford to be now that MS is actually working very hard on security. Until we have a "best practices for administrative accounts" or similar document which the user will easily find (win2k3 has a document like this) which suggests never logging in as root etc etc (win2k3 suggests that you should never log in as Domain Admin, you should change the default "Administrator" account username, and disable the "Schema Admin" group on the Domain Controller), I don't think it is wise to make it easy to log in as root. Regards, Buchan - -- |--------------Another happy Mandrake Club member--------------| Buchan Milne Mechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work +27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/LjG6rJK6UGDSBKcRAv5FAJ4oCpds3PwRxp29EgHBSMebhWDkTQCeMMhY c4s4XUhEz/QD2pXlAhFnlXo= =uD8q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ****************************************************************** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. ******************************************************************
