On Sat, 16 Aug 2003, Robert L martin wrote:

> Well, I'm sorry for my trollish way of saying it. The real point here is 
> I'm just willing to expect more quality and more support as a club 
> member and ans Mandrake Sustainer than from friendly geekish mirrors and 
> contributions. If I can't get it work better with the club and with 
> Mandrake I have less motivation in helping Mandrake by joining the club.
> 
> You want users tu help Mandrake existe and develop ?
> Makes them happy with good packages, good support, good distros.
> ----------------------------------------
> Just to make the point clear
> The distro should if certain things are not true go to a FULL STOP on 
> devel until a blank disk install boots correctly the first time
> and the CORE SYSTEM is clean. item list:
> 1 base filesystem package/ boot <---- if it doesn't boot it needs to be 
> fixed
> 2 cli utils  and /dev subtree <------ if bash or the basic utils are 
> broken this gets fixed
> 3 HardDRAKE and related utils <--------- any time a user has to create 
> dev nodes by hand is BAD
> 4 XWindows   and KDE  <-------------- if these don't work you might as 
> well be running gentoo
> 5 Internet and Multimedia <------------ most users run systems for these
> 6 Office stuff     <---------------- this is most of the "other" users

Robert, in future can you please:
1)Stick to the thread (your post doesn't seem to have anything to do with 
MandrakeClub, or the KDE packages in club testing urpmi medium), or start 
a new one
2)Quote properly. Mozilla can do it (I am not sure if the default settings 
do, but it is trivial to det it up).

Your issues have merit, they are just out of place in this thread, and I 
have no way of knowing (without going back to read the message you may be 
replying to) who wrote what ...

Regards,
Buchan

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