I've got something to say. (might be intelligent or not intelligent - you
decide )


I've installed Mandrake 7.1 several times now (hosed different things
really bad each time and one different machines) and I've finally got a
system halfway the way I want it.  However, the gnome default icons on the
screen are absolutely horrid each time.  For example, the icon for
Netscape is some weird document looking thing with a flower.  The exact
filename is: gnome-application-x-gnome-app-info.png .  why is it not the
standard netscape icon?  The cdrom and the floppy icons did not appear the
first time I ran gmc.  i don't know why.  Where are the default icons
stored on the system?  I have not found them... but then I haven't really
looked a lot yet.  it also just looks a lot like Mandrake (not pointing
fingers or blaming Mandrake for an otherwise excellent product) did not
spend a lot of resources developing the gnome desktop for the users.  The
kde desktop is populated with icons and other mandrake niceities that it
appears were forgotten on the gnome side of things.  


thanks,

steve westbrook



On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Pablo Saratxaga wrote:

> Kaixo!
> 
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 03:00:38PM +0200, Andre Steden wrote:
>  
> > where are the icons: printer, xkill, news, floppy and cdrom on the
> > gnome desktop ?? 
> 
> Gnome works a bit differently than KDE.
> 
> floppy and cdrom should automatically be created by gmc on its first run.
> 
> print icon is the task of g-print package (a small Gnome app that does just
> that: recognize drag and drop on the icon and send it to the printer)
> 
> So those are not included in mandrake_desk package.
> 
> > The Del key works as backspace with the gnome-terminal. 
> 
> Open Settings -> Preferences dialog then check/uncheck the entry
> "Swap DEL/Backspace".
> The reason is that, for some obscure reason, the Linux kernel in console
> mode doesn't send a BackSpace but a Delete with the BackSpace key.
> But of course X11 (and other OS too, important to know when doing remote
> login) send a BackSpace with that key.
> 
> Also, as text mode programs, to handle that BS-key-sending-Del problem,
> became to treat Delete as BackSpace (that is: "delete previous char" action).
> and bash, etc are configrured to delete previous char when receiving a ^?
> 
> Now; under X11 the key send a real BackSpace (that is ^H) and the programs
> doesn't always react well on it.
> 
> Two solutions have been available so far:
> * change console behaviour so that BackSpace key sends a BackSpace (^H) and
>   configure the programs to use that. Then no problem on X11 as nothing change
> * make the xterms send a ^? so the programs work as in the console.
>   For doing that the keys BS and DEL are switched (that is BS sends ^? and
>   DEL sends ^H). Of course that is not wanted on systems configured to have
>   BS send ^H in console; nor it is wanted either on non-Linux systems;
>   so the xterms have that behaviour as a configurable option.
> 
> That is a legacy problem that has its roots on the beginnings of the Linux
> history, and it is not easy to properly fix (that is have all programs
> work with the same setting).
> 
> > -- 
> > Andre Steden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 

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