-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Vincent Danen wrote: > On Mon Sep 01, 2003 at 11:58:46AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>>Wow... that looks pretty neat. Does this superkaramba thing work in gnome >>>too? >> >>ah..the price for running GNOME :-P >> >>On a more serious note, are you (=mdksoft) or are you not going to set up >>something like this by default? If the user has to search for packages to >>get security warnings than only security aware users will use it (and they >>probably checked mdksecure anyway). The messages need to appear on the >>screen of the newbie, unexperienced users, by default. > > > Well, let's put it this way. We're working on 9.2 now, and I've been doing > the security since 6.1 (IIRC) and it's never been an issue before.
Mandrake 6.1 wasn't competing with Windows98SE for the average user's desktop (realistically speaking). Mandrake 9.2 will be competing with WindowsXP for the average user's desktop (ie, will have a reasonable chance). So, including something like this by default on 6.1 would not have made much difference, but it does now (ie Mandrake has improved substantially since 6.1 that newbie-ish features are necessary). > The > mailing list exists exactly for this kind of thing. There are a lot of > sources to determine new updates: > > 1) launching rpmdrake and scanning for new updates > 2) visiting mandrakesecure > 3) visiting mandrakeclub > 4) external sources such as linuxsecurity.org (I believe) > 5) mailing lists: announce, bugtraq, full-disclosure, and two others > 6) new RSS feed > The average user won't see these unless we make them see them by default. You need to cater for the people who can't get WindowsUpdate to work (they're a big market, with recent motivations to change ...). You basically need to ensure that a user can't miss the update notifications, even if they try ... > I don't think it's urgent that we put something like this in there by > default. Would it be nice? Hell yes! Do I think it's necessary? Not > really. > > Personally, I'd like to see a little applet that's like a green light and > polls the mirrors (or rss feed) and turns red if there's something new. > Something to develop/look into for a future version. (We are in a freeze > after all). > See mutray (for KDE at least) and mdk-check-update-gnome (works in KDE and GNOME, and probably the rox desktop too), both in contrib. > >>Now that I am complaining, why does urpmi.setup not have it's own button >>in drakconf (ok, it's a bit bugged, is that the reason?). It is such a >>waste to have all the nice functionality of urpmi lost to most non-CLI >>users. > > > This I can't tell you. I don't use drakconf... call me an old-school > diehard (or insane). =) > But, I am sure (after running urpmi.setup) you will see it is valuable to have it in the menus at least? Regards, Buchan - -- |--------------Another happy Mandrake Club member--------------| Buchan Milne Mechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work +27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/U6n9rJK6UGDSBKcRAopNAJ9chpcotXnW5hgSyC9q7033ba2VsgCeMhHY byh1uSf+mu2JGD+aLuZBe38= =PCRV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ***************************************************************** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *****************************************************************
