-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 September 5, 2003 03:31 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
<whack> > What do you mean "broke" ? If you don't use "--force" or "--nodeps", > you shouldn't be able to break your box, and if you can, it's a bug. I've never used "--force" or "--nodeps" on a package. That's what I said, a bug. Initscripts troubles and a "luser" (me) that decided that RC1 install was a good time to try grub. In the case in this thread it wasn't a bug, just a slow upload and I was perfectly willing to wait for it. Nobody said I was smart, just good at breaking things, and patient. > >>Maybe that's why some of us are so adamant about wanting CL tools > >>installed and available by default. > > All console tools are available by defualt, but not necessarily > installed by default. Anyone running cooker is assumed to be able to > 'urpmi <package>' after changing to a VT (or worse). Again with the "anyone running cooker" stuff? The point that was made about that wasn't with regard to cookers; it was about the "target market" and taking the default console tools out of the standard menus. Read that as affecting newly captured people intelligent enough to be curious about Mandrake, but with no experience with anything but Windows. Those that have also developed a burning desire to run away from Microsoft and their "Trusted Infection" initiatives. People that have money to buy distribution releases, and expect to have *everything* they were smart enough to read about. Without having to ask a "guru" where the hell all of those wonderful tools are. New *customers* in other words. People that will never accept condescension. Clear enough? > >>"If you didn't break it yet today you ain't tryin' hard enough!" :) > > I've only broken my cooker box about 3 times in 18 months, and I've > been trying ... It was an extremely feeble attempt at a funny from someone that was awake for 54 hours straight at the time. I'm sorry; it won't happen again. I had broken things twice yesterday though and still don't know what cause the last ongoing "breakage." No swap mounted. If I figure it out I'll report it at bugzilla. > > > Thanks for the idea, I will from now on try to look at lib as an > > abrevation of > > > 'liberated from' :) > > Well, it actually means the package has been libified, to follow the > distribution policy. Anyway, you will see: > > $ rpm -q --whatprovides XFree86-devel > libxfree86-devel-4.3-20mdk > $ urpmq -p XFree86-devel > libxfree86-devel > > The problem appears to be a package which did not make the upload ... > (subpackages are always built, you can't build some without others, > but packages do get lost sometimes ..) > > Regards, > Buchan Thank you. Going back to my usual lurking mode. Best regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-5mdk 19:59:18 up 5:40, 1 user, load average: 0.06, 0.19, 0.23 You will experience a strong urge to do good; but it will pass. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/WUUzG11CaRuZZSIRAlqrAJ48NuI6k5piZJuwDfzHOO9jFlqmdQCgrDqF FbARzjxBCWL6td3YPyB3SN0= =xs7u -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
