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Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 03:09, jokerman64 wrote:
>
>>OK, so here i am after p-chem lab and i open my mail and get the new
"updated
>>mandrake club" website mail. So i go and check it out, kinda excited
to see
>>if it's "worthy of me" now so that i can join and I see that it's
still the
>>same crappy site. lemme explain:
>>1. The fonts suck!
>>2. The fonts are sh*te
>>3. The fonts on all the mandrake site suck @$$.
>>Yes, that is my one and only complaint. You see i don't care so much how
>>things work if i'm not going to use them a lot as much as I care about
how
>>they look.
>
>
> Agree 100%, assuming this means the site still has Helvetica set as its
> preferred font. We've spent years in the distro fixing the reliance on
> this ass-ugly piece of bitmap crap, so why does  the website of the damn
> distro want to use it?! Since we now have such lovely fonts in Mandrake,
> the website should have the default font set as "sans", so it actually
> looks half acceptable. Sites that default to Helvetica bug me so much
> I've actually wiped the font from my system (I tried setting up that
> thing you can do in fonts.conf that make it use Vera in place of
> Helvetica, but I could never make it work), so now the MDK page looks
> okay to me, but this is a hack I should NOT have to use.

AFAIK, MandrakeClub now uses CSS for all style settings, and according
to Denis, doesn't set any fonts (though I will check later), however,
http://www.linux-mandrake.com is full of this junk:

<font size=2 face="helvetica, arial, sans-serif"><b>September 9th, 2003
 - Mandrake 9.2RC2</b> - The second
release-candidate of Mandrake Linux 9.2 is available for download and
tests. Release informations and places to download are available <a
href="92beta.php3">here</a>.

Luckily I override some fonts ...

Please, can someone ensure this is addressed. Helvetica is not a decent
replacement for Arial or sans-serif, and should be listed last, not first.

Ha! I just looked at the CSS on http://www.mandrakeclub.com, and see this:
BODY {
        color: #000000;
        background: #ffffff;
        padding: 5px;
        margin: 0px;
        font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;
        font-size: 12px;
}

* {
        font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;
        font-size: 12px;
      }

The same issue applies here, you should use instead:
        font-family: arial, sans-serif, helvetica;

Regards,
Buchan

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