-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [stano] wrote: > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5244 >
> ------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-09 21:07 - ------- > Sorry, I have other things to do now, so don't expect further testing from me > until weekend. I investigated a bit and my GPRS provider indeed uses 10.0.0.0/8 > too :-( IMHO, this (class A network for no specific reason) is bad practise ... > > Anyway, the problem has nothing to do with ppp. It can be eth where it hurts > (e.g. non-flatrate ADSL), it can be wlan, whatever. To try to guess thing based > on the interface name is also not a good idea. Well, the question is whether ppp interfaces would benefit from lisa or not. If there are no circumstances where a default config would want lisa browsing over ppp, then we can prevent some problems more easily. BTW, what interface name is your GPRS? > > Lisa seems to flood the whole network, regardless of what the network is. I wouldn't say flood, but it does ping the network ... but on a /24 subnet, the traffic is negligible, in normal operation, one ping will be sent to a host probably somewhere between once every 5 minutes and once every 80 minutes (probably about 2 to 8 ping's per minute on the whole network at most). > If the > netmask is 255.0.0.0, it will probably send at least 16 millions of packets. I > don't know what the lisa exactly does, I never used it and it was never > installed and activated by default on other distros (I am trying Mandrake for > the second time, but am a long time Linux user). AFAIK, it is installed and activated by default on SuSE at least. All other distros (except for Xandros who uses their own proprietary stuff) have a deficient out-the-box experience ... However, lisa's operation without pinging seems to have improved recently, so maybe pinging isn't necessary any more. > I just don't think this is a > sane behaviour and should IMHO not be present out of the box, if at all. Imagine > a large network where every machine does the same. Lisa takes advantage of other lisa's running on the network to reduce traffic, but I haven't experimented with >4 lisa's on a network ... > Imagine that they are on a > slower connection (wlan) and they all start at the similar time (people booting > the machines in the morning). > WLAN isn't substantially slower in this regard. Nothing else (ie WAN) would be affected, since that crosses the subnet boundary (we have a 64k WAN line, no lisa traffic goes over it). > I agree that this is probably a problem with lisa itself and not specifically > with Mandrake. I will most probably file an upstream bugreport on the weekend. Well, lisa is deficient, but the configuration caused the behaviour. I will have a new initscript for you before the weekend, I would like you to test it (and if you have a LAN at home, see what the advantages are). I will do some more testing (again ...). [BTW, lisa isn't my responsibility, but I provided the init script, and added the automatic configuration, otherwise it is way too difficult for a newbie to get this working ... I actually maintain the samba packages ...] Regards, Buchan - -- |--------------Another happy Mandrake Club member--------------| Buchan Milne Mechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work +27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/X3sTrJK6UGDSBKcRAmqrAKCmek7E22Poctv2sjEQIxwGYs/pMQCgpsVM Sd2UOPGXramNJ9ZpTSUIXjA= =Dw39 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ***************************************************************** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *****************************************************************
