->I think your concerns are unfounded, and I also think you're being a little ->silly. Do you close your eyes when you're driving around and see billboards ->that advertise stuff? Do you close your eyes and mute the TV when the ->commercials are on? Do you leave the theatre because you paid to see a ->movie and not a car commercial before the feature starts?
Yes, I do to all of these. I no longer go to movies on time because the ads take 20 mins before hand, of which I did not pay for. I mute the TV when commercials come on because they are annoying. I focus solely on the road when I'm driving. Using bad behavior to justify other bad behavior is wrong. However, the issue here is that people are essentially getting a distribution for free and can be subjected to ads to offset the costs. People who pay, should not be subjected... And I think this is the case. However, I think that from a PR perspective, this will have a negative impact. Cory > -----Original Message----- > From: Vincent Danen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:35 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] um. > > > On Fri Sep 12, 2003 at 03:02:49AM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > http://www.mandrakesoft.com/partners/advertising > > > > > > > > > no. > > > > > > > > I'm all for it. I replace the screensaver and bookmarks > straight away > > > > anyway, and it's a simple way to fund your favourite > distro. It's not > > > > as if we're seeing in-yer-face popups or anything. > > > > > > > > Cheers; Leon > > > > > > me doesn't use screensaver :) > > > nor default bookmarks :) > > > > > > about the install > > > ( may be will skip a CD install and will use > urpmi.update && urpmi > > > --autoselect ) > > > > My point wasn't really about whether it affected us > directly. Obviously > > it won't - given that we use Cooker, I don't know if we'll even ever > > *see* the offending adverts. The point is I think it's a > horrible way of > > generating revenue which is being introduced by stealth - I > only found > > out about this because OSNews discovered the page and > flagged it up in a > > news story, I haven't seen anything from a Mandrake source > announcing > > this, and it hasn't been mentioned on this list at all, > which seems a > > little odd. I'm more concerned with the horribly unprofessional > > impression that an installation and first boot sequence > plastered with > > adverts will have on a new user, compared to distributions > which have > > none. > http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/mdkads.php3 I think your concerns are unfounded, and I also think you're being a little silly. Do you close your eyes when you're driving around and see billboards that advertise stuff? Do you close your eyes and mute the TV when the commercials are on? Do you leave the theatre because you paid to see a movie and not a car commercial before the feature starts? I think you're a little out of line here, personally. It's not that intrusive, there will be no "plastering" of ads, and once you modify the bookmarks, they're gone. How many times do you plan to install and actually watch the entire install (does anyone do that anymore?) Besides, it's ok to advertise links to OSS and GNU stuff but it's not ok to advertise Linux-related commercial stuff to make a couple bucks so we can have another version of Mandrake in the future? I hate to say it, but it cracks me up how people are so against advertising, our business model, and things we do to make revenue so that the developers and others in the company can eat and afford to spend all of their time working on the distro. Sounds like the community would rather have a nice distribution but all the developers should be homeless and starving. (And no, I won't bother contributing to this thread anymore) -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/ "lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import" {FE6F2AFD : 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD}
