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> Bruno Prior wrote:
> > Buchan,
> >
> > As was explained earlier in this thread, plenty of people have 9.2 now,
> > because it is being included with various linux magazines. I don't know
> > about the Spanish one, but the Linux Format DVD looks pretty official to
> > me - there is a full-page advert for MandrakeClub in the same issue, so
> > I assume Mandrake knew about its inclusion.
> >
> > What is happening is that magazines like Linux Format, who have a pretty
> > positive impression of Mandrake's user-friendliness, have included 9.2
> > (original, without updates, due to publishing timescales, presumably)
> > and encouraged people to give it a go. Many of these are inexperienced
> > linux users, and are running up against the usual problems - most
> > commonly patchy support for video hardware. Mandrake and Radeon has been
> > a bad combination since at least the Radeon 7500. And it's a copout to
> > say it's because of ATI's attitude to Open Source drivers (not that I
> > expect you will) because other distros handle this aspect better than
> > Mandrake.
> 
> Sure, for the Radeon 7500, there is no excuse (but AFAIK it should work
> fine out-the-box on 9.2), but for newer Radeon's, there isn't much we
> can do, since no free software driver supports them yet.
> 
> > And, as has been discussed in other threads, what really needs
> > to happen if new users are not to be put off, is that X configuration
> > falls back to a basic default (VGA or Vesa @640 x 480, say) or the
> > console interface to XFdrake, rather than simply fails and dumps the
> > user at a console.
> >
> > You could see this for yourself if you check out the Linux Format Help
> > forum, but as a taster, here's a quote from a thread titled 'Install
> > Mandrake 9.2 with ATI Radeon 9600 card?':
> 
> XFree86 doesn't support these cards yet AFAIK. You have to have the
> non-free ATI driver. Fedora won't ship it, and the drivers are:
> - -on the commercial CDs
> - -on the Club.
> 

IIRC Fedora does support them with free drivers
:

http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/rawhide/1.0/i386/Fedora/RPMS/XFree86-4.3.0-42.i386.html

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* Fri Oct 03 2003 Mike A. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4.3.0-36
  - Added XFree86-4.3.0-ati-generic-shared-chip-data.patch to unify changes
to
    atichip.h into a single harmless patch to avoid patch overlap and merge
    conflicts
  - Updated XFree86-4.3.0-radeon-support-from-ATI-backport-from-CVS.patch to
    remove changes to atichip.h as they're merged into the above patch
instead
  - Added XFree86-4.3.0-radeon-support-backport-from-CVS.patch backport of 
    support for newer Radeon 9600/9800/IGP/Mobility hardware from CVS head,
    along with a few minor bug fixes for Mobility and IGP.  Very low risk
change
    which is heavily audited, however currently configured to only build for
    cambridge and psyche until runtime tested sufficiently
  - Renamed XFree86-4.3.0-ati-radeon-dpms-on-dvi-v2.patch for consistency,
to
    XFree86-4.3.0-radeon-dpms-on-dvi-v2.patch
  - Added XFree86-4.3.0-Xserver-xf86PciInfo-updates.patch which from now
    on will hold all xf86PciInfo updates.  Moved all Radeon, s

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