Geoffrey Lee wrote:
>
> Yo!
>
> [...]
>
> >
> > in a way this is just mandrake, lots of linuces install without a desktop,
> > because they seem to have been distributed with less of a
> > one-size-fits-all approach. to be fair 7.0 was also easy to pull the
> > desktop out and run a server only install. i haven't attempted since, but
>
> Of course we have to cater for server install as well, why do you think we
> have apache and inn and samba etc in the distro .. :-)
>
> > it's a feature that a small, but still significant minority will probably
> > expect to be possible, without a week of after-install pursuit of
> > dependencies in thousands of trigger files for what just installed --
> > sounds a hell of a lot more like unbloating a solaris box after it was
> > installed with 'all' to me.
> >
> > bottom line, if you want a minimalist server, linux is an option ,but
> > probably mandrake isn't the best option of the linuxes out there at
> > present, from what i've seen. But Mandrake remains a great desktop
> > bells-and-whistles distro.
> >
>
> Well, IMHO you can run a Mandrake as server, absolutely no problem. We aim
> to make it more user-friendly but that doesn't mean that we dump away the
> server image.
>
> Even if you do a default server install you ould still have to do some massive
> configuration to make it secure, now think, we have lots of kinds of srever we
> don't really know what server you want to run, perhaps ypu just want apache,
> in which case you would probably remove telnet whatever etc ...
>
> > Question: This list seems primarily focused for employees of
> > Mandrake-Cooker. I would prefer not to bog down this list with long
>
> Yes there are mdksoft employees here but a lot of folks here are just
> volunteers who make bugz report to us ..(for which we are very grateful! :-)
>
> --
> Geoff
Geoff,
All i'm asking for is a "Console Server Install" installs only the
basics not X,
KDE, GNOME, let the user add to the installation, (add inn, openldap,
postgres)
heck even make them standard if you want. It would be easier for me to
un install
a few server services then what I have to do now.
As for security. When selecting that option turn everything off by
default. This
might fit in nicely with the current security scripts in 7.1. I would
like to see
the default have nothing, make me turn it on if I want it. Instead of
turning it
on by default and then making the user find everything on and turn off
the stuff
they don't want.
In this respect openbsd is superior to all linux distributions. Granted
I don't
expect Mandrake to become as secure as openbsd over night. But wouldn't
it be a
good idea to start the process. Mandrake could become the Easiest and
the most
Secure linux distribution.
Just my two cents.
-Jason
