To: Matthew Brealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Matthew Brealey wrote:
|  You wrote:
|  > First, there is no support for Absolute Positioning.
|
|  Not true. It does support absolute positioning, albeit badly.

Try this:

<HTML>
<HEAD><TITLE> Positioning test </TITLE></HEAD>

<STYLE>
  P          { font-family:"Arial, sans-serif"; font-size:10pt}
  P.bluetext { font-weight:bold; color:darkblue; font-size:11pt}
  P.reverse  { font-weight:bold; color:white; font-size:10pt}
  H2         { font-family:"Arial, sans-serif"; font-size:18pt;
               font-weight:bold; color:darkblue}
</STYLE>

<BODY>

<DIV STYLE="position:absolute; top:0; left:400; width:150; height:300;
            background:darkblue">
  <IMG SRC="myimage.gif" STYLE="position:absolute; top:20; left:25">
  <CENTER>
    <P CLASS=reverse STYLE="margin-top:30">Sponsored by<BR>Big Brother</P>
  </CENTER>
</DIV>

<DIV STYLE="position:absolute; top:245; width:400; left=:0">
  <CENTER>
    <H2 STYLE="color=darkred; line-height:200%"> My wonderful text</H2>
    <IMG SRC="img2.gif" STYLE="position:absolute; top:0; left:50;
z-index:-1">
  </CENTER>
</DIV>

</BODY>
</HTML>

Rendered correctly in Explorer.
Mozilla also can, Netscape - can't.

|  > Mozilla has partial support,
|
|  Actually the best and most complete support of any browser on any
| platform.

Microsoft, you mean?

|  > Unfortunately, Mozilla has even CSS1 issues. Just try my page
|  > http://kde2.newmail.ru - menu on left side
|
|  is
|
|  [snip]
|
|  > rendered
|  > correctly both in
|  > Netscape and Mozilla.
|
|  You use _ as an IDENT character (i.e. your class name contains a _), which
| is not permitted. The _required_ behaviour in response to this (that is the
| error recovery behaviour) is to ignore the associated ruleset[s]. (see
| http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/grammar.html for tokenizer, and
| http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2 section 5 (can\'t remember the URL) for error
| recovery rules)

And?
Microsoft and Konqueror render correctly.
Again speaking about Netscape? Well, IMHO, with Netscape's marketshare
dropping from 80% to current 15%, there is no reason to worry about Netscape.
Konqueror should take care about Linux/FreeBSD users, and that's all the
story.

|  > (and looks ok in Konqueror, while some
|  > font size is
|  > still wrong)
|
|  You mix points and pixels: bad. Read
| http://richinstyle.com/masterclass/lengths.html
|
|  > Vincent, does it make sense to report bugs for Netscape?
|
|  If you use Netscape it does, because the result of reporting bugs to
| Netscape is a better browser for you.

No, I don't. Thanks. (well, I keep it on computer for testing purposes, both
Win98 and linux versions)

|  > mozilla.org, it is not
|  > GPL\'ed.
|
|  http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/mozilla-relicense-faq.html explains otherwise.
|
|  > And now Netscape engineers approve patches. I can\'t
|  > say that this is bad.
|
|  This is true. Although Open Source, Mozilla is strictly controlled by
| Netscape\'s financial interests. See for example
| http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22994.

Thanks for URL. I will check. :-)

|  It\'s sole purpose is to make Netscape money. It would not exist
| otherwise.

At least one point where we agreed.

|  However, this is hardly a revelation.

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Vadim Plessky

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