I'm right behind you on this. I feel the same way - I have about 11 servers
at work, 7 running 7.1, 2 running 7.2, 1 running NT and another running
redhat. We also have 2 workstations running 7.2, and my 2 machines at home
running 7.2. After showing everyone what it was like, I raised a lot of
interest in people the before 7.2 (KDE2) thought linux was just too much of a
change for them. Now they are ready to try it and I just talked 2 of them out
of buying 7.2 at wal-mart. I would have been really pissed (as in lawsuit
pissed) had I spend time putting what I thought was Mandrake 7.2 final on 9
servers only to find out it's RC1 - which there were still quite a few
problems with when I was using it.
This certainly already is a step in the direction of hurting sales for the
next release from MacMillan even if they straighten their act by then. And
they could only get away with this a few times before everyone knows not to
buy from them. Surely they must know this? Are thy affilitated with linuxone?
Who're the best people at MacMillan to contact on this?
On Monday 30 October 2000 07:25, you wrote:
> Not only can we warn people, we can let Macmillan know how we feel about
> it. I personally have sent over 50 people in just the last 6 months (I
> started keeping records) to buy Mandrake 7.0/7.1 at Staples here in
> town. I know I could have burned them a copy (for some I did) but for
> the rest having a manual (as good "cough,cough" as it is) saved some of
> "my" hair. I know that at least 32 of them did follow my consultations
> and purchased and installed it. Because of my becoming aware of
> Macmillan doing this though, I am not only telling everyone from now not
> to buy Macmillan packaged Mandrake; but I am also emailing everyone on
> my list and telling them "not" to buy the Macmillan 7.2. I not only
> don't want them to think that the Macmillan packaged 7.2 is
> representative of MandrakeSoft's work, but it would reflect bad on me,
> and as a professional I can not and will not let that happen. So I am
> CC'ing this to the only email addresses I can find on Macmillan's
> website that I believe are pertinent, as well as filling a customer
> service request. If anyone has better email addresses please let me
> know. Also I would encourage anyone else who finds this disturbing to
> do the same. You can't always expect a company to act responsibly,
> ethically, or morally; you can only let them know that you are taking
> them to task for their actions. I would like to point out that although
> I find this a grievous error on Macmillan's part, I also recognize that
> it could have been worse; I just want them to know that they have taken
> what I regarded as a convenient distribution of excellent software, and
> rendered it useless to me and others. Also I would like to ask that
> anyone who does this doesn't do so in a manner as to cause more disdain
> for us, by doing so in a unprofessional manner; as I believe that even
> though the linux revolution is progressing at an alarming rate of
> expansion and acceptance, the number of zealots that are visible to the
> press, computing community and industry is simply too high.
>
> Graham Percival wrote:
> > Millions of electrons died to bring me this message. Was it worth it,
> > Jason Straight?
> >
> > > On Sunday 29 October 2000 16:00, you wrote:
> > > > Well take the Red Hat linux distro and call it Mandrake and
> > > > redistribute it....
> > >
> > > Yeah, but the difference is Mandrake did that and they didn't call it
> > > RedHat anymore! MacMillan is distribuing "Mandrake Linux 7.2" only it
> > > isn't!
> > >
> > > it's 7.2rc1 or thereabout. If they are going to do that they need to
> > > change the name to MacMillan linux 1.0 or whatever.
> >
> > They don't *need* to change the name. Unless MandrakeSoft didn't give
> > MacMillian permission to use their trademarked name (mea culpa about the
> > "copyright" screw-up on my part), there's nothing that can be done to
> > stop them.
> >
> > Of course, they *should* change the name, or otherwise make it clear that
> > it is a beta version. But the US market system and legal system go by
> > what is legal, not by what is right.
> >
> > The only thing we can do is to get the word out: the thing called
> > "Mandrake 7.2" that is sold in Wal-Mart is not the real Mandrake 7.2.
> >
> > --
> > Graham Percival
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