I use the demand idle  feature on pppd, however, it does not hang up
after the 300 seconds i set... tcpdump -i ppp0 shows no activity after ive 
finished what ive been doing but it does not hang up... please advise.

and hopefully lastly..... The menus... expecialy in the K desktop

I get stacks of duplicate entries, and the menudrake dosent show those, and 
when i add to menu drake it dosent allow me to save my changes, and if i can 
randomly get it to save it, it dosent update any menus even after log out 
back in..... and when i install software as root which makes menu additions, 
they are not made system wide. 

dave

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