> It's nice to see some interest in Zope on the Cooker mailing list. I use
> Zope out of my Win98 box, mainly because it is so easy to install "out of
> the box". If Zope could be made to install easily on Mandrake-Linux, GREAT!!
> Here's what I know about Zope.
> > 2) Zope seems to require python 1.5, the Zope package in cooker doesn't
> > compile due to this --> mymath.h seems to be needed, see:
> > http://d10179.upc-d.chello.nl/build/cooker/alpha/problem/Zope-2.1.6-4mdk.src
> > .rpm.txt.
> > The 2.2.4 package from the 7.2 updates produces similar results when
> > rebuilt;
> Zope.org (or the guys at Digital Creations who administer Zope) only
> guarantees Zope to work woth Python 1.5.2. There is currently a project
> project to migrate Zope to Python 2.0, see
> http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/Python20Migration/FrontPage
I took a quick look into those pages, it seems to be quite a project to
migrate to 2.0. They hope to have it working before the 2.3.0 release.
> > 4) Configuring Zope to make it work with an other webserver (let's say:
> > apache) requires quite some magick (I've found out that I'm too stupid
> > for it, as I gave up the last time I tried). Hints on how todo this
> > point to serveral URL's, documentation etc. It should be possible to
> > make this easier --> make it work out-of-the-box;
> Yes, you need to know something about PCGI or FastCGI. Since I started using
> Zope I have no need to use Apache or My SQL. The Zope ZServer is more than
> adequate for my local prototyping requirements. Admittedly my database
> requirements are very small and the Zope Object database gives me what I
> need.
> > 5) Zope.org only delivers a tgz file, not RPM's. The Zope src.rpm's seem
> > to be originating from: http://starship.python.net/crew/jrush/Zope/
> > (correct me if I'm wrong);
> The Zope rpms on this site are way out of date and they are generic
> i386.rpms. It would be better to have Mandrake Zope rpms. If I know how to
> make Mandrake RPMs, I would but at this stage it is a bit more that I can
> currently handle.
The is a document available on howto make mdk rpm's see:
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/howtos/mdk-rpm/
For the moment making Zope rpm's in cooker isn't possible, we need to
wait for the python 2.0 support to be put into Zope. It could be
possible
to update the 7.2 RPM's to 2.2.5, and make it work out of the box with
apache.
Question is: where to put them? Unless a security breach is found (&
fixed with the new package) it can't be put into "updates" and putting
it into "unsupported" might not be wise either.
Anyway, I'll have to get a 7.2 box working here & then I'll get started
on it (don't expect any results soon ;-) ).
> > 6) Is anybody actually using this stuff? Please speak up!!
> I am still a Zope newbie but I love it. It is completely plateform
> independent (IMHO). I use it out-of-the-box with its own webserver, object
> database and search engine.
True. Esspecially the platform independance is interesting... Plus the
price, just compare it to the other CMS systems in the market...
> > 7) There are tonnes of Zope applications out there which (when packaged)
> > could make building a nice ASP site trivial;
> Very true!! If you become familiar with the Zope Portal Tool Kit (PTK),
> ZClasses and the ZOPE API, You could build just about anything ;-)
Bingo!!
> > 8) Maintaining this package must be hell;
> >From memory, Zope installed out-of-the-box on my Mandrake 7.2 box. Most of
> the source is Python code anyway, but your Python path must point to Python
> 1.5.2. I had problems when I had Python 2.0 installed initially.
> Cheers,
Stefan
