"Brian J. Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 12:18:02AM +0100, Pixel wrote:
> > Prana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > What exactly is needed? If it's something like keep everything uptodate,
> 
> Actually something _like_ up2date (pun intended).  I believe up2date
> (redhat's utility) does more than even MandrakeUpdate.  Does
> MandrakeUpdate handle the case where I have an rpm "foo-1.1-1mdk"
> installed.  A new release comes out, foo-1.1-2mdk but has a new
> dependancy on bar-3.5?  Will MandrakeUpdate fetch and install
> bar-3.5*mdk even though it's not already installed on my system?

it doesn't, and it is meant that way. We're talking about updates, and for
updates we ensure that such thing is not needed. It simplifies a hell lot of
things, and really isn't needed for updates.

the only pb that occured with MandrakeUpdate are the kernel updates which are
very dangerous, morevover when done via MandrakeUpdate where the guy doesn't
know much about the command-line :-/

> 
> > - my first solution was to say, mirror the dir and rpm -Fvh * but someone told
> > that it was bothersome to download the unneeded packages.
> 
> I have 6% of the distribution installed.  I would statistically be
> downloading 16x the times the number of packages I would actually
> install.  Is that really an answer?  How often shall I do that?  Once

hell, once every hour should be enough, uh?

[...]

> > - my second solution was to do exactly what MandrakeUpdate is doing, just simpler
> > (aka assuming one wants to update everything).
> 
> I missed that one.

Here it is: ftp://ftp.mandrakesoft.com/pub/pixel/mdk-update.pl

> 
> > These 2 are so simple that i can't see what needs to be done!
> 
> So write a tool and put into the distro.  Make sure it can efficiently
> and reliably (deal with old and new dependancies, etc.) update the O/S
> even if run every hour.

The pb is i don't know if we're ready for automatic updates. I'm no security guy
for sure!

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