On Thursday 29 March 2001 12:29, Eleknader wrote:
|   >
|   > And by the way, I use Mandrake because it is pentium optimized, not
|   > because of something you call a nice gui.
|
|   It's great that Mandrake is pentium optimized. But, for a user point of
|   wiev:
|
|   I need just one window manager and one desktop. Just _one_.
|   I'd like to set up things with tools that have exactly the same look and
|   feel.

Problem is that it's rather hard to choose those "one Window manager" and 
"one desktop".
As you see, some LM users choose Gnome, some - KDE.
There are also users out there who hate (dislike) both Gnome and KDE...
And they use some exotic WM's like evilwm or ratpoison.
 
What I really like in Mandrake that Mandrake guys give us:
-- possibility to choose (11 WM's)
-- Distribution is still on 4 CD's not on 6 (like SuSE).
-- compiler (gcc 2.95 in LM 7.2, patched gcc 2.96 in LM 8.0) can compile 
important libs/apps, like KDE 2.1 or Gnome 1.4 - without segfault, missing 
libs, etc.  
-- I can install Gnome and try "what it is" even if I don't use it.
 I am on slow connection (56K dialup) so I can't download ISO images or rsync 
Cooker.
So, I select favourite app (KDE 2.x in my case) and download/compile only it.
50MB is so much different from 1.2GB...

|
|   We have a great environment (libralies, tools etc) that are free, and
| they work
|   wery well. Those tools are KDE libraries and KDE Control Center.
|

Actually, I'd like to be 3rd (all already 4th ?) in backing system-wide KDE 
control center.
For example, i came to my brother's office with laptop and needed to connect 
to Win2000-based network.
Installed DHCP, login - and I don't see network.

I am not so familiar with Linux internals, and don't know where to tune 
details for DHCP client.
In NT/Win98 - you can see network if you have support for this installed.
Natural way, from my point of view, is to have settings in KDE Control 
Center, like:
- DHCP client - On/Off, then necessary confid details
- DHCP server - On/Off, then again details
  
And so on for other parts of the system.

Reading man pages is *not the right way* to learn/use Linux!..

|   If most people were working for the same goal, maybe we could beat Win in
|   issues of GUI simplicity etc. There is no use trying to reinvent the
| wheel.
|
Right.


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