Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I somewhat disaggree.  Some aliases like 'll' are used on many, many
> different UNIX flavors and also mentioned in a lot of books, I suppose. 
> Users might expect this to be there.  And if someone really does not want
> the 'll' alias, he is always free to unalias it, isn't he?  

yup but here we speak about default configuration of basic user. but
here is my update for aliases (at least for bourne shell) on mandrake :

   #    If exist a ~/.alias and the user hasn't specified a
   #    LOAD_SYSTEM_ALIAS variables then don't do any system aliases
   #    If there is no ~/.alias but the user has specified a
   #    IGNORE_SYSTEM_ALIASES then don't do any system aliases.

> I'd also think that /etc/skel should be nearly completely empty.
> Everything should go into systemwide configuration files, 

yep normally but some thing need to let the user do it.

> as long as the user is able to override and disable it, as it is the
> case with aliases.  The same also applies for things like PATH,
> EDITOR, etc.pp..  They should be setup with 'decent' (whatever that
> is) values.

agree.

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