I had a problem installing beta2 cds. After the reboot after installation (chose lilo text) it printed a nice pattern of ' 40' repeated endlessly. The setup may be unusual. I had win2k taking up all of a 2GB partition on /dev/hda and installed Mandrake in a partition on the 13GB /dev/hdb. I then booted from floppy and tried grub and it also gave an error on boot. Now that I know how to recover my boot sector I can do more experiments if anyone wants. Maybe as a general point you should put up an alert when running lilo telling the user how to restore their old boot sector if they have problems later booting. You should also explicitly specify that the user can decline to write a boot sector and leave booting to floppy. Some random comments: 1. I had a very big tar file with lots of long file names with funny characters. Gnu tar dies horribly reading it. This is probably a security problem if people use tar for backups. Anyway star was fine. It doesn't provide all gnu switches but it would be nice to have it available: http://freshmeat.net/projects/star/. 2. The real ksh93 is now available and David Korn says he'd like to see it added to distributions. http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/ Bob
