On Monday 10 September 2001 12:13, you, Fabrice FACORAT, wrote:

> Le Lundi 10 Septembre 2001 18:46, Guillaume Rousse scribit :
>
> > > No! you have to run "msec" to add the correct users to the group audio.
> >
> > Or add them manually. A full explanation of which groups exist and which
> > goal they deserve is still missing altough.
>
> userdrake
> usermod -G audio user
>
> audio seems obvious to me :)

It's obvious to me, as well, but we are not average end-users. Forcing users 
who choose the automated install to figure out how to add users to groups and 
so forth right off the bat is just plain obnoxious. Many of them are going to 
be brand-new to UNIX-style permissions, and learning the intricacies of 
adding users to groups, or setting 666 on the appropriate /dev entries is 
ludicrous when all they want is to hear an mp3 play on their shiny new Linux 
box. 99% of them just plain won't do it, and will show up in 
alt.os.linux-mandrake and ZDNet talkbacks saying things like "Linux SUCKS" 
because even their old Win9x setup could do something simple like play a song 
without 2 months of reading man pages and guesswork.

660 is fine for expert install with higher than "medium" security chosen, but 
for a Average Joe install, it's going to be a real turn-off to the new user, 
and just plain unnecessary, unless you're trying to sabotage the entire 
user-friendly point of using Mandrake in the first place.
-- 
Brad Felmey

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