>>  Xmms plugins (not talking about untrustable ones), some "good" games,
>>  that I never could understood "why" not installed and cannot be
>>  selected in the tree view.

P> if you have packages that are not installed when selecting all the groups,
P> tell which one you think are missing. Most packages that people are missing
P> are just errors in the package list.

  If you would like, I can send you my auto_inst.cfg, or the rpm list
  of my box now. I cant guarantee, but I installed on several systems
  without getting trouble during install/usage with this file.

>>  Mandrake seems to be only major distro that does not have an "install
>>  everything" option.

P> does SuSE has it?

  Yes.

P> has for RedHat they *much* less packages, so "install everything" is much less
P> dangerous for them.

  I agree. Redhat has less, and mostly they dont install the packages
  in the last cds. I dont use it anyway. I Was talking about suse
  actually.

P> I did test some "install everything" installs but things get nasty with over
P> 3Gigas of installed packages. "rpm" gets slow as hell (and install time gets
P> very high), and other bad things happen.

 That is another issue about mandrake. Have you ever tried suse
 7.3pro, selecting full install ?

 In the same machine,(P4 1.5, 512 MB SD-ram, IBM 45GB ATA-100 7200RPM)
 talking of only the "file copy/install" time

- MDK , with my full install auto_inst.cfg, took 82 minutes. All 3 cds
 of mandrake download edition. If I dont use mine, but select all the
 programs in the tree list, it is about 70 minutes.

- Suse 7.3 professional, which is 7 CDs. Last 2 are source etc, but all
 the 5 cd's are installed. I did a full install, and took 47 minutes.

 MDK now takes about 4GB disk space, suse taking about 6.2GB.

 The trick is,I guess, suse installs the first cd, and boots the kernel from
 hard disk (does not restart the system, just loads the kernel to
 memory) and continues to install the other cds from the hard drive.
 There may be other things, could not have time to investigate more.

 About loading a new kernel (or reloading it with hdd as root)
 without restarting the pc,
 http://www.scyld.com/products/beowulf/software/monte.html


 PS: Did installs on "a lot slower" machines, and suse still seems to
     be faster again.
 
 Onur Kucuk



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