On Thursday 31 January 2002 09:23, Yura Gusev wrote:
|   On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, David BAUDENS wrote:
|   > On Tuesday 29 January 2002 20:06, you wrote:
|   >
|   > Once again, KDE 3.0 will not be included in 8.2 if it is not ready.
|   > 'Ready' means that KDE 3.0 need to be in final release and that the
|   > Mandrake's KDE Team + QA Team agree to release it. So, don't hope to
|   > much to see it included in final contribs CDs (KDE 2.2.2 will be the
|   > KDE avalaible in 8.2).
|
|   I tryed KDE for few minutes, used it intensivly and it crashed sereval
|   times(mostly taskbar when i asked it to use pixmap as a background.)

make sure that you have QT 2.3.1, not Qt 2.3.2

|   So i'm thinking that maybe just maybe Mandrake will switch to some other
|   more stable WM, for example IceWM (+ DFM or Evolution for desktop icons).
|   Because this WM is much faster and stable.

Do not mix KDE and KWin (KDE's Window Manager).
KWin is pretty fast - it starts under 1 sec.
To check it, from the command promt run:

#X
than: switch to terminal 1 ((Ctrl+Alt+F1)
#aterm
or xterm
than: switch to terminal 7 ((Ctrl+Alt+F7)
#kwin

so now you will get kwin running, without KDE
as I mentioned, KWin starts pretty fast here.

|
|   > KDE 3 installation will of course allow users to run KDE 2 or KDE 3.
|   >
|   > Beta versions of KDE 3 will be of course available in Cooker (but only
|   > if when we will have time to do it, i.e. when there will be no know
|   > bugs which need to be fixed in KDE 2).
|
|   Yes, please test all apps. And make 8.2 stable even if you will
|   have to downgrade or use alpha software. Ask all your developers to
|   write down any bug or crash on paper, and then go through debug process.
|   Go and brainstorn every app you mandrake have build.
|
|   For example you can add small hint bar for the MCC, something like
|   on.area("Configure Local and Network Printers").

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