On Thu, 2002-02-28 at 02:33, Buchan Milne wrote:
> Leon Brooks wrote:
> > On Wednesday 27 February 2002 23:54, Levi Ramsey wrote:
> >>Have you tried Opera's browser spoofing (it can masquerade as IE 5 for
> >>Windows)?
> Yay, thus icreasing the browsing stats for IE, and providing no 
> motivation for sites to support standards: "Everyone accessing this site 
> uses IE, even the users who were using wierd browsers under linux last 
> month", and allowing people to say linux isn't used on the desktop, 
> based on browser stats.

Yes, this is bad. Opera's default is to identify as MSIE, but it's under
"quick preferences" to change it (F12). I run as opera 'till I need to
fake MSIE. But, your system still shows as linux, kinda. 

User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Linux 2.4.17 i686) Opera
6.0  [en]

Thats funny now I look at it. Mosilla, MSIE, opera and linux mentioned
:)

But back to the point. I think it would be fair to say that most people
dont like/dont use NS4, but a lot of people do use it for specific
applications when web servers suck, and thus there will be a lot of
non-technical mandrake users who get stuck when they upgrade to 8.2 if
it is missing. On this basis I think it would be a good idea to leave
NS4 on the main distro. A lot of people dont download the last cd.

Incidentally, www.harveynorman.com.au used to bitch about opera, and
only give me debug info when I faked MSIE, and the debug info said there
was no problems! I complained (several times) and today just noticed
that they have changed their site and now it works when I fake netscape
and/or IE, and if I pick opera it tells me I may need netscape or IE,
gives me some links to them, and then provides a link to "try anyway"
which lets me in! Good to see some people out there are listening! (I
thought they'd never change!)

As for coming to AU, why not linux conf 2003?

http://www.linux.org.au/conf/

Ant

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