On Thursday 07 March 2002 1:50 pm, you wrote:
> I just got this box it has 2 cdroms.
> one cdr and one dvd drive

mine's a combo drive, (hence relatively recent and you'd have thought it 
wouldn't have problems (it worked fine with my older intel smp board...)

> It locks up or kernel panics right after harddrive detection during
> boot.

as best I can tell, for whatever reason, the kernel's drivers seem to corrupt 
stuff from ide from some unknown reason... On mine, since it's got problems 
with the cd drive, when I start the install process, when it loads the 
ramdisc from cd, the ramdisc image must be corrupted, so it can't mount it & 
hence bombs out :/  

> I also get lock ups during operation if it does boot.

in my /var/log/syslog I get things like:


Mar  7 01:06:09 sn693 rawdevices:  failed
Mar  7 01:06:18 sn693 kernel: hdb: dma_intr: status=0x71 { DriveReady 
DeviceFault SeekComplete Error }
Mar  7 01:06:18 sn693 kernel: hdb: dma_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, 
LBAsect=79215, sector=79152
Mar  7 01:06:18 sn693 kernel: hda: DMA disabled
Mar  7 01:06:18 sn693 kernel: hdb: DMA disabled
Mar  7 01:06:18 sn693 kernel: ide0: reset: success


kinda worrying, especially for a board that's supposedly tested by mandrake 
itself...... I'm guessing your box/hd's has problems messing with the dma 
hence the lockups... 

> How can I get ide-nodma set as default during boot and then get it
> turned back on for the harddrive?

in /etc/lilo find a section similar to this:

image=/boot/vmlinuz-smp
        label=linux-smp
        root=/dev/hdb1
        initrd=/boot/initrd-smp.img
        append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi mem=nopentium"
        vga=791
        read-only

change the append line to something like this
        append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi mem=nopentium ide=nodma"

mem=nopentium is useful on dual amd boards if you plan to use opengl agp 
cards otherwise don't worry about it - the hdc= bit is so I can use the cdr - 
you'll have something similar for yours 

make sure you've installed hdparm & drivetweak-kde - drivetweak-kde will then 
let you play with the ide settings to your heart's content :)

> Is there another option of amd smp motherboards that you have found?

asus has just come out with one relativly recently - I don't know what's it's 
like, or how stable, but it'll be based on the same chipset and may suffer 
from the same problems as the tyan. The tiger is a relatively stable board, 
and because it's been around for longer, it's usually easier to find out info 
about some of it's problems/issues ;)

I've also read in a couple of places that the redhat 7.2 kernel seems to 
handle better with dual amd tyan boards (thunder/tiger) - if you're out to 
use the board as a server, it might be worth considering until mdk becomes a 
little more stable :) (sorry guys - I'm a big fan of mandrake as is everyone 
else here, but it's def got some issues with some people's tyan boards...)  

Ofcourse, it could be nothing to do with the ide/dma and all of this could be 
wrong, it's just a got feeling... :)

> Thanks Ray
>
>
>
> I've had problems as well with my tiger board - (mine come during the
> install
> tho...)  I get around the install problems by passing the kernel
> ide=nodma -
> it's possible your box doesn't like one of your hd/cdrom drives... If
> you can
> mail more details I might be able to help some more...
>
> On Thursday 07 March 2002 4:25 am, you wrote:
> > Is there any know problems with amd xp cpus or tyan tiger mp
> > motherboards?
> > I can get thru the install ok but on reboot 8 out 10 times I get a
> > kernel panic right after the ide detection.
> >
> >
> > Ray

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