On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 05:29, Joe Simon wrote: > Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages. This must be the worst yet! > > 1) No menu's. > 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr). The packages are > not relocatable. What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on / > ? > 3) ksplash seg faults just right after login. > 4) Many other seg faults. > > Is this just a Mandrake problem or KDE problem? > > How can kde.org say the following on their web site: > > "On April 3rd 2002, the KDE Project released KDE 3.0, the Third-Generation > of the Leading Desktop for Linux/UNIX, Offering Enterprises, Governments, > Schools, and Businesses an Outstanding Free and Open Desktop Solution. " > > Can you imagine students in grade 7-9 getting all these seg faults and not > having any menu's? > > I am disappointed! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com >
Well, /usr is for software integral to the system, /opt is for add-on software according to FHS 2.2. KDE2.2.2 is part of the system, and KDE3 is regarded as an experimental add-on at this time. If you don't have enough room to make an /opt in /, then mkdir -p /usr/opt ln -s /usr/opt /opt It isn't yet ready for newbie time by a long shot, but you know the clamor when we delay these releases. Turn up your messaging to warning level to catch the KDE warnings and you will get a clue to the segfaults--most are in reference to opening sockets. Drop your security level to 2 with msec 2 and the most of the crashes disappear. Perhaps the KDE team was concerned with desktop and not thinking of settable security or perhaps they decided the distros should make the permissions available (which is going to take some distro-centric engineering) Sound may work on your computer without the sound server in KDE3 functioning at all. There is little new in this. The linux kernel was not really designed for sound, and the problems multiply from that. Civileme
