On Thursday 08 August 2002 10:15 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
> That is not Mandrake's fault.  Mandrake doesn't control the kernel.
> They just package it, include a few patches.  Changing the driver model
> is something that will take the cooperation of the core kernel
> developers, especially Linus and Alan Cox.
I'm not faulting Mandrake.  I'm saying you can't compare it with Windows 
directly.

> I still think you're barking up the wrong tree for the issues.
>
> Mandrake has a policy that they don't ship binaries on the GPL CDs.  I
> think this is a reasonable policy.  They do ship binary drivers,
> depending on the license, in the commercial CD set.
Yes, it is a reasonable policy.  I don't own a CD set, so I can't say what the 
quality of it is (I am a "silver" Mandrakeclub member, though).  

> Fact is most of the newbie users who will have difficultly installing
> these drivers probably are using the commercial CD sets.  But even those
> that aren't the Mandrake Club has started packaging some based upon
> requests.  For example you can now download RPMs for Nvidia drivers.
Yes, although some packages in Mandrakeclub seem to be just links to the 
manufacturer's RPMs.  These don't always work out of the box, from my 
experience (example: conexant HCF/HSF modems).

> Your argument is falling on deaf ears anyway.  The policy is set.  It's
> not going to change now.
I was mostly hoping to change some people's attitudes towards a few things, I 
don't really care much about changing policies.  I know, this is probably not 
the right forum for such things (sorry :), but I think  that sometimes people 
need to consider things from more than one viewpoint.
-- 
-- Igor

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