On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:04, Igor Izyumin wrote:
> On Thursday 08 August 2002 07:52 pm, Leon Brooks wrote:
>> No, I don't. But it _is_ a totally bogus excuse. Their competitors _will_
>> be clean-rooming their chips and disassembling their drivers anyway.

> I very much doubt that - it's too hard and too expensive.  It's hard enough
> to write drivers, and even harder to disassemble them.  It's easier to
> develop your own, I would think.  But when you have full access to the
> source code, it's a different story.

Strongly disagree. I've done this myself, and a heck of a lot of Linux kernel 
drivers are the result of similar hackery.

Source code _does_ make things easier, but it doesn't tell you how the chip 
was assembled. However, a simple photomicrograph of the chip does do that, 
and a disassembly does tell you most of the things that full source code 
would. It can certainly tell you *how* things need to be done to make the 
chip work, even if not always *why*. Disassembly is not hard to do, there are 
tools (including free and Free) which make 99% of the task automatic.

> > It's
> > one of those if-you-outlaw-guns-then-only-outlaws-will-have-guns
> > problems. As things stand, *only* their competitors have access to their
> > `secrets' and not you or I, not their more-or-less friends! What could be
> > a worse situation than that? Better to also give their allies access, no?

> Well, they won't really care; if their competitors do reverse engineer
> their drivers, they will pay double for the drivers and will be left with a
> technology that's a generation old.  It's kinda like the joke about
> stealing computer blueprints... by the time you steal them, they're already
> outdated.

Agree.

> The goal is to make it harder - it's just like security screws
> and warranty stickers on hardware.

What, by a couple of days? Not significant.

> > Some point-haired-boss moron lawyer makes that decision, not someone with
> > their brains actually operating.

> Yes, but that's the reality.  An OEM won't permit their techies to
> distribute drivers if it's not ok with the lawyerbots.

Yes. Let's change that.

Cheers; Leon


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