On Thursday 15 August 2002 07:35 am, Wouter Lagerweij wrote: > On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 14:27, Tom Whiting wrote: > > <... deleted angry comments ...> > > Erm.. You *do* know that cooker is the experimental branch of mandrake, > don't you? If you want things to 'just work' it would be better to stick > to the release version. At the moment the latest release is Mandrake 8.2 > > Wouter Actually, I know VERY well that this is an "experimental" branch of mandrake. VERY well indeed.
The problem is that this is a "BETA" release. There's bound to be issues, YES. however, when it comes down to it, this doesn't even qualify as beta, or pre-beta. This qualifies as the "I got a bug up my tail about something and want to see if it'll work" syndrome that I've seen so many times. The fact of the matter is this: A> OSS works. It HAS worked in the past. Hell, were I to download the ISO's again and rebuild the server, it WOULD work again. Unfortunately I no longer have the cd's to do so, thanks to the individual that decided to make those specific ISO's so large they are incompatible with quite a few older drives. B> WHATEVER the "new" driver is is crap assed at best. When you can't get a BASIC feature to work (/usr/bin/play IS a basic feature that SHOULD work out of the box), then there's a problem, a HUGE problem. This says that the driver is NOT ready for release (even for a beta integration). If Joe internet user decides to go to WalMart and buy a PC with Mandrake on it, IS he (or she) going to be happy when their brand new server doesn't play sound like it's supposed to? I don't think so. Why should I? OSS works, it has worked for QUITE some time. Why mess with a good thing? Put it back in so that individuals can USE it. As far as sticking with stable releases, I've yet to see stable from 'drake. 8.2 was full of problems, and this is just going to be even more full of them, if the current state is any indication. It's not just sound issues, but hardware issues, and rpmdrake, and everything else. If the issue doesn't resolve itself, or get resolved, I'll gladly take my paying business somewhere else. I don't need the lack of support for common devices (Ensoniq / CL soundblaster cards are THE top card out there), nor do I really need to spend hours up every night trying to figure out why X isn't working or Y is, simply because someone else decided to take out WORKING support. **boggle** PROgression is good REgression is bad. The current sound driver status is NOT PROgression (moving forward), instead it is REgression (moving backwards). I'm not too familiar myself with ALsa, or anything of the like, but I am quite sure that this problem won't simply "resolve" itself. At least not until someone takes that step backward to put support in for OSS again. As far as the next message, which asked that I change the reply-to line, I apologize. Apparently Kmail set that at setup, and I hadn't changed it. -- ---------------------------------------------------- TJW: Head tech, Dreamless Realms Mud: http://dreamless.wolfstream.net Snippets http://dreamless.wolfstream.net/ Telnet dreamless.wolfstream.net:9275 The OLC Pages http://olc.wolfstream.net ----------------------------------------------------
